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zeppman

u.s.a.

Mar 15th, 2006 02:23 PM   Edit   Profile  

Am I the only one who can't access the original link? I'm getting a "forbidden error".

SMark
Contributing Member

Atlanta, GA USA

"Life is good when you love your tone."
Mar 15th, 2006 02:28 PM   Edit   Profile  

If you are talking about the very beginning of this thread...

This has replaced the original link...

SMark
Contributing Member

Atlanta, GA USA

"Life is good when you love your tone."
Mar 15th, 2006 02:34 PM   Edit   Profile  

zeppman...

Your post of course makes a good point that I should go to the beginning of the thread and update my original link.

So I just did that. Thanx.

zeppman

u.s.a.

Mar 16th, 2006 11:04 AM   Edit   Profile  

That works, thanks! Great playing.

etvetv

United states

Mar 16th, 2006 07:44 PM   Edit   Profile  

It's the Deep Purple:Masters From the Vaults" DVD that has a great version of "No No No" on it. They are playing a small auditorium or college or something and they are down on the same level with the crowd just a few feet away. The sound and video so great that you can count the number of hairs on Jon Lord's fingers when he solos! They do a lot of jamming to and Blackmore really shows out. It's amazing how much archive concert material has been released by Deep Purple in the last five years.

SMark
Contributing Member

Atlanta, GA USA

"Life is good when you love your tone."
Mar 16th, 2006 11:41 PM   Edit   Profile  

That sounds like the one I'm thinking of... Was Ritchie using his ES-335 / AC30 rig for any of the older tunes like "Wring That Neck" or any of the jams?

Regardless, I gotta get me some more Purple DVDs!

I can't stop watching this ABC In Concert footage from '73. His tone is fantastic and he's getting a lot more sustain out of his rig than he does at the Denmark show. He and Gillan are also dealing with a bit of microphonic feedback too, but such is life though the lead channel of a old Marshall. It's really too bad that nobody thought to keep the un-cut concert footage. We get three songs, all of them missing verses, and all of them missing at least 1 guitar solo. But still, it is exactly as I remember it from way back when I watched it on TV.

CrazyD

Ohio

"Hey You"
Mar 18th, 2006 08:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

I'm busy watching the "California Jam April 6th 1974" DVD.

Got it from a friend,apparently not easily available...he got it in Japan.

Anyway...Ritchie's tone on the intro of "Mistreated" is incredible.
Obviously the Marshall's behind him have a lot to do with it,but man I'd love to know what pickups he's using in that Strat ?

CrazyD

Ohio

"Hey You"
Mar 18th, 2006 08:57 AM   Edit   Profile  

Is there something wrong with the hi Gain samples,the cleans sound excellent but all the Hi Gains sound terrible.

SMark
Contributing Member

Atlanta, GA USA

"Life is good when you love your tone."
Mar 18th, 2006 10:20 AM   Edit   Profile  

I'm sure Ritchie's pups are stock Fender pups in 1974.

Describe terrible for me. I'm not having any problems with them.

Rustyslide

Halifax, Canada

Mar 18th, 2006 07:50 PM   Edit   Profile  

I think the hi-gain clips sound a bit tinny, which is likely a result of the mp3 encoding process - they're encoded at 80kb/s, 32kHz.

SMark
Contributing Member

Atlanta, GA USA

"Life is good when you love your tone."
Mar 18th, 2006 09:22 PM   Edit   Profile  

I probably could re-do that, FWIW. But I'm still hung-up between "a bit tinny" & "terrible." They were originally bandwidth sucking wave files, and the encoding at that time was a compromise of file size vs. quality.

CrazyD

Ohio

"Hey You"
Mar 19th, 2006 03:03 AM   Edit   Profile  

They sound extremely fizzy/buzzy,kind of like my Tonelab with speaker sim turned off.

But the playing is so cool that I'm listening to them and enjoying the playing skills.

SMark
Contributing Member

Atlanta, GA USA

"Life is good when you love your tone."
Mar 19th, 2006 11:28 PM   Edit   Profile  

Actually, that's a pretty accurate description of the tone of my amp.

Thanx.

;^)

etvetv

United states

Mar 20th, 2006 02:29 AM   Edit   Profile  

"That sounds like the one I'm thinking of... Was Ritchie using his ES-335 / AC30 rig for any of the older tunes like "Wring That Neck" or any of the jams?"

Yep, that's the one, and the 335 sounds awful! Sounds like he's playing through a 15 watt Pignose with a blown speaker. I've never heard humbuskers sound that bad. I hope Billy Gibbons doesn't see that clip, or he'll be trying to duplicate that tone! LOL! Seems like he's been on a personal quest on the last few albums to find the most God-awful overdriven tone known to man. I'd love to hear his last CD Mescalero with the LP tone he had on his first album. There are some really good tunes on there, but you get tired of hearing his detuned guitar throwing up all over the place.

Mark, both the clear and hi-gain clips sound great to me, and I've just got a dialup connection. No difference in sound quality at all. The problem is not on your end, if we're talking about the same clips...the demo Tex-Mex, CS54s, Holy grails, Rio Grande, etc.

etvetv

United states

Mar 20th, 2006 03:19 PM   Edit   Profile  

originally posted by SMark > "I'm sure Ritchie's pups are stock Fender pups in 1974."

So Mark, which Fender pickups that are currently made are the closest to these?

I want to read some reviews on the Harmony Central user reviews section about some different Fender alnico pickups to put in my new Standard Strat, but I don't know exactly what names to look for. Is there an alnico Strat pickup that is considered the "standard" to judge others by (American or Mexican)? What is the exact name of the stock pickups in an American Stratocaster......and also in the Mexican made Classic 70's Strat?

Any one know of a webpage that describes the history of the Fender alnico pickups and describes them in a simple way?




SMark
Contributing Member

Atlanta, GA USA

"Life is good when you love your tone."
Mar 23rd, 2006 01:40 AM   Edit   Profile  

I hate to say this... but the set that captures Ritchie's vibe the best is my set of Abby Masterwounds. Of course, I'm only talking about the neck and bridge pickups. But I can crank that bridge pup right up to the strings... as close as I can reasonably get it anyway, and it's like biting down hard on sugar cane.

Expecting that you really didn't want me to mention a $500+ set of pups, I will also suggest the the Custom 54s. I have said before that I thought the Custom 54s were better for Blackmore-ish tones while the CS 69 was better for Hendrix.

But then I will also say that the 6k Hot Gold Lace Sensor is also really good at capturing Ritchie's vibe.

SMark
Contributing Member

Atlanta, GA USA

"Life is good when you love your tone."
Jun 20th, 2007 11:34 PM   Edit   Profile  

Back-to-the-Top!


I was asked about these recordings again and I figured it had been awhile since I brought this thread back for another round...

Also, it is a good time to look right above this post and remember my good friend Ed Voorhies (etvetv) who passed away last October. Ed had many things in common with me and we struck a good chord together. He died of the very thing I take great strides to prevent every day of my life.

I still miss Eddie...

A little something dedicated to Eddie...

91Stratplayer

Illinois, USA

Jun 22nd, 2007 09:55 PM   Edit   Profile  

SMark, All I can say is thank you for this post. Sorry about the loss of your friend, very nice tribute.

Achase4u
Contributing Member
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U.S.

Hello People I'm Bobby Brown...
Jun 22nd, 2007 11:17 PM   Edit   Profile  

Sorry about your loss SMark - wonderful tribute.

levity

Australia

Jun 23rd, 2007 06:12 AM   Edit   Profile  


SMark - I really enjoyed listening to all of these. One thing above all stood out for me - how good and how consistently under-rated are Tex-Mex pickups. I enjoyed them most of all.


And please let me add my commiserations on your loss.

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