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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Stratocasters / 50th Anniversary American Series: The Face and Sound of the Real Strat :)

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Iron Man

USA

May 16th, 2004 01:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Three weeks after I turned down the 50th American Deluxe, I got my 50th American Series. Played the heck out of it before I took it home and all day yesterday. It sounded and looked great.

There are distinct differences between the 50th Dlx and the 50th Series. Most of the diferences (keys, back plate shape, dot inlays, gold hardware...) have been well elaborated in this forum, but let me dwell a little on what I think has not been previously described.

I played side by side the 50th AmSeries and a V-neck 2004 Deluxe through a Cybertwin (CT) just to compare the tones of the CS54 and SCN pups with S1 switching. I must say with a lot of confidence and conviction that the 50th Am Series is the heart and soul of the real Strat. Yes, the pups are a little noisy (much less than a 57RI) and although the hum cannot be cancelled in 2+4, specific settings on the CT make the 50th AmSeries absolutely quiet. The characteristic sound of the real Strat came out undeniably far more superior with the CS54 pups than any S1 switching pup combination on the American Deluxe. In addition, I found that the S1 switching was much more useful with dirty channel setups on the CT than with clean ones, where actually, the sound thinned significantly when the S1 was on. This could have been due to the specific CT dial amp configuration.

The playability of the 50th AmSeries is indeed for the pure Strat lover. I played it mostly "clean" on all positions in solo and rhythm and each one has a characteristic sound that I used with various songs and this is how I intend to use it, leaving my Eric Clapton Strat for when I need some versatility.

Finally, I felt that the CS54 pups were a little weak compared to either the SCN or the boosted Vintage noisless on my Clapton, but this can be easily remedied by slightly raising the amp volume. Furthermore, the presence of the delta tone, which is turned on with a click when tone 2 is dialed to 10, can noticeably be felt thus adding a little brightness and output to the bridge pup.

Overall, the 50th Am Series is what it is intended to be: The tone of what we have all loved and known Strats for, with slight modern changes.

Hope it will inspire others.

yellowrubberduck

Vancouver BC, Canada

May 16th, 2004 01:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

very well put :)
i couldn't agree more! i didn't compare has well as you did. but i played about 8 or 9 different guitars back to back with the AM 50th. try one, try the 50th, try another try the 50th... and so on

i took one home yesterday and i can't keep my hands off of it. i am extreamly pleased with this guitar. Fender did a heck of a good job on these!!!

seticat

Canada

May 16th, 2004 01:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I agree. I've been playing one all weekend. I was never really sure what that "bell" tone was until I played this one. It sounds amazing when played clean (through my 67 SF Super). I had to work a little with my amp when playing the Strat with some dirt. However, I got it! That Strat sounds nice dirty or clean. How about the workmanship! Fender did well with this one.



seticat

Canada

May 16th, 2004 01:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sorry, double post :)

(This message was last edited by seticat at 01:54 PM, May 16th, 2004)

tuna

Virginia,USA

Southern by birth, Virginian by grace
May 16th, 2004 06:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thats what made me go for the American Series 50 th vs the American Deluxe 50th. The fact that it was the closest thing to the real deal (that I could afford). Wonderful bell like tones out of this guitar.

pombrio
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USA

May 16th, 2004 07:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Stick with me guys! I'm gonna be joining this club soon.

blklab

White mountains N.H.

Live free or Die
May 16th, 2004 08:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Had my 50th AmSe for a few months now,couldn't agree more! I have CS 54's in my 94 AmStd and the the 50th AmSe blows it away. Don't ask me why.

Marty D.
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With Our Thoughts We Create Our World
May 17th, 2004 03:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Could not agree more! I played both Ann. models and chose the American. I loved the real-deal Strat feel it has and I haven't set mine down since I got it. I like the direction they are taking the Strat with the rounded neck heel area and locking tuners, etc. But at the end of the day I prefer my old Strat, thank you, just like the one I feel in love with as a kid.

Bacs

Sydney

May 17th, 2004 06:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I agree
The 50th American series is the way to go as far as I am concerned when it comes down to it. I am very glad I chose the american series 50th over the deluxe 50th
Dave

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Hogwarts™

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May 18th, 2004 06:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like mine so much, I am thinking of buying a second one to *put away*.

smrybacki
Contributing Member

Newville, PA USA

What a long, strange trip it's been!
May 18th, 2004 06:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I already own a 50th Deluxe (no regrets BTW), and I am thinking of getting an American Series 50th because it was so darn hard to decide between the two!

Six

yellowrubberduck

Vancouver BC, Canada

May 18th, 2004 09:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I like mine so much, I am thinking of buying a second one to *put away*."

i started getting this idea last night. i thought, man, if i keep liking this as much as i do, i'm gonna wear it out. wouldn't it be great to get another one and hide it for about 20 years... pull it out when this one is all played out. hehehe well i can't afford that... but it's a nice thought!


So it's been 2 days i've been playing this guitar... still has the original strings and set up... as it came out of the door. i haven't even touched the tuning. but it play fantastic!!! i love this guitar!!! it sounds sooooo good. maybe the most "stratiest" sounding guitar i've ever played on.

they come with .009's.... has anyone put .010's and tried that out? i will next week

Timster

USA

May 18th, 2004 07:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Have to agree. My AM Series 50th is killer!!!

JDR

Midwest USA

May 19th, 2004 07:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

After seeing all the great comments about this guitar, I placed an order for one yesterday with my favorite, local, independent Fender dealer. To my surprise they already had some on order, expected to arrive within two weeks or so.

I've wanted to try the CS '54 pups for a long time. and figured a guy can always use another Stat! I believe I will keep this one as is.

Thanks for the comments-very helpful.

Florida Mike
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United States

Life is Live...make sure you're in tune
May 20th, 2004 05:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I played them both, I have the Deluxe. I found the Regular 50th Noisy.

Iron Man

USA

May 20th, 2004 06:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mike:
The CS54 pups are indeed noisier than the SCNs or VNs, but they also have superiority over them when it comes down to the characteristic Strat tone. The hum and the Strat tone go together. To my ears, and I believe as well to that of others on this thread, the Strat tone on the 50th AmSeries is much more pure than on the 50th AmDlx. The hum is a small price to pay.

I was able to completely cancel the hum on the 50th Am Series with a specific amp configuration on the cybertwin.

6 Cylinder Slim

New England

Shoes for Industry!
May 20th, 2004 07:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

How good is the shielding on the Standard? I use CS-54 pups in my Strat with full shielding and found them to be reasonably quiet.

Florida Mike
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United States

Life is Live...make sure you're in tune
May 21st, 2004 05:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Try recording with the CS54's...still enjoy the hum ?

6 Cylinder Slim

New England

Shoes for Industry!
May 21st, 2004 06:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have recorded with the CS54's with no problem. Unless you hold the guitar right in front of the amp there isn't much difference between them and the Lace Sensors I have in my AV62. I do have a full copper pickguard shield, conductive adhesive copper foil lining the pickup cavities and a shielded cable running to the output jack. To my ears, the CS54's are the best pickups Fender has made in years. The sound is worth the extra effort. I use a blues type sound in my playing. Either clear or Princeton Amp at 10 for distortion. Perhaps the CS54's are more of a problem to players that use very high gain, but to blues players they are heaven.

CapariJackson

new york

May 21st, 2004 08:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

what's the waiting time on these limited edition 50th anniversary strats? still 3 months + ???

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