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FDP Forum / Fender Feedback: Leave feedback for FMIC / stop using Groove Tubes

legomstrat

florida

MBJ
Jul 14th, 2006 02:23 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic

Please quit using those Groove Tubes in your amps.I never liked GT's along with many others (stand up everyone). We all seem to put JJ's in our amps to improve the sound, maybe the factory could too.

jrosevear
Contributing Member

Massachusetts USA

Jul 14th, 2006 06:11 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
Hear, hear.

But can JJ supply them (at their current high level of quality) in the quantities that Fender would need?

legomstrat

florida

MBJ
Jul 14th, 2006 06:51 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic

Good Question... hey let's keep replacing them, cheap upgrade

LeftRightOut

Australia

too many guitars and not enough hands
Jul 29th, 2006 12:16 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
The Groove tubes in my DRRI are just rebranded Electro Harmonix

are they any good????????

personally if i was in fender situation i would use the most reliable and cost effective tube available in the numbers they need

Teleman027
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Massachusetts

Let's Get Excellent.
Jul 30th, 2006 11:26 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
Groove Tubes sound perfectly good to me.

but then I again I also really like the sound of Sovteks.

fatnecks

USA

Taking bad mojo to new levels....
Aug 1st, 2006 07:16 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
I haven't had any issues with GT's.....

Rob Anderson

USA California

Sick Boys are people too!
Aug 1st, 2006 07:17 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
I dig my Groove Tubes sorry
Rob

bluesman69

US

It's not what you play, but how you play
Aug 4th, 2006 10:48 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
No Groove Tube troubles here!

t0tt@ge

San Jose, CA. USA

Aug 14th, 2006 04:30 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
Groove Tubes doesn't manufacture their own tubes. They simply get their tubes in bulk from other companies like Sovtek and Electro Harmonix then put their logo on them after "matching" each tube.

kents
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Dallas Texas USA

so many guitars ... so little talent
Aug 14th, 2006 06:46 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
I believe I recall reading from Fender that they use the best tubes they can obtain at the quantity required.

Sounds about right to me.

Not many tube plants left on the planet and some of them likely can't make the quality / quantity / cost cut.

I like JJ tubes too, fyi.

JSJH
Contributing Member

Metro Chicago, USA

Author seeks film maker
Aug 22nd, 2006 10:49 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
No GT probs or moans here.

Modal Magic
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MBJ, Highway Hound.

You Can't Bend It Aussie!
Sep 7th, 2006 04:52 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
No Groove Tube problems iether. Actually, a lot of people skyke about JJ's, but I'm happy I can get a matched set of power tubes with minimal fuss (no bias mods). I also have confidence in GT's testing regimes and reliability and the way they filter out the rot. And, yep, to my ear, they do sound good.

Bill D.
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Fresno, CA USA

I pick...therefore, I play...
Oct 30th, 2006 04:49 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
I've never had much luck with Groove Tubes. Neither have a few of my friends. They sound good, but the snap, crackle, pop, and hiss right out of the box shouldn't be there.

k4dje
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Florence KY

Dec 9th, 2006 03:24 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
I went to three diffrent music stores thursday and tryed out Bjrs, mine had a feedback problem and I was not having any luck fixing.(has since been fixed) I wanted to try out the cream board to see if I would buy a new one or find an older green board used. I gig with the Jr. Every amp I tried had at least one bad pre amp tube. Snap crackle pop, and I'm not eating breakfast, when I tell the store owner about the bad tube they say the can only send the amp back to FMIC. Why can't they just give me a new tube? Apparently most people don't know the sound of a rattling tube. Yea I checked out some other amps as well, Deluxe, Deville, Most had a tube with a rattle. Now that I think about it when I bought my Jr, New, 10 years ago, I had to replace the tubes in it, same reasons.

I've got an HRDx that I bought new with bad tubes, I tried to get the store to give me new tubes, but they said they would have to send it back to fender. So I took the amp and replaced the tubes myself.

I guess I'm ranting here but 90% of the amps I've checked out had at least one bad tube and the dealers were not allowed to replace them. Seems wrong to me.

Edit to add

If the stores were allowed to replace defective tubes, it might give GT a boost in consumer confidence. If the tubes don't rattle and they get replaced with another brand, the sound diffrences are slight at best. Most times a diffrent setting on the tone stack brings out the same tones. Also all these other tube companies do the same thing as GT, they get a supply of tubes, test them, then rebrand them. Who knows where it was made. I've gotten matched quads that were obviosuly made in 4 diffrent factories, they were all of differing sizes, all with the companies name that I bought them from.
(This message was last edited by k4dje at 03:42 AM, Dec 9th, 2006)

kents
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Dallas Texas USA

Dec 9th, 2006 01:22 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
I've had bad tubes replaced at a local Fender auth service center with no problem.

k4dje
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Florence KY

Dec 9th, 2006 03:12 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
Our local "authorised" service center is staffed by quacks. I took a strat to them for a fret dressing and the guitar came back without being crowned. When I complained they did finish the job. When I asked the tech why he would level frets and not crown them he shrugged his shoulders. I'll bet most of their service work is done for beginers who do not know any better. I asked these same clowns for a replacement tube for one of my amps and I was informed I would have to leave it there and they would "fix" it. They stated they did not stock tubes and if I replaced it myself it would void the warranty.

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