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FDP Forum / I'd Hit It! - Drums and Percussion / Electronic Drums Live ?
FDP Forum / I'd Hit It! - Drums and Percussion / Electronic Drums Live ?
Solomio
Canada/MontrealMar 16th, 2010 04:39 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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A guitarist that recently auditoned for our band spoke of head phone amps and electronic drums as the second coming. Suggested I convince our drummer to get a set of electronic drums.
Says they sound fantastic in use with these " headphone amps" ( which allow bands to practice in silence ) and when running live thru the PA.
I told him that I thought that no more than 5% of drummers would switch to electronic drums for practice or live. That there is no substitue for wood, steel and skins.
Am I wrong? Are there a lot of you that have made the switch, that do now play live with an electronic set?
Are there any drawbacks to the electronic kit in live performance?
solomio
Lazmo
OzMar 16th, 2010 08:01 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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They are getting better... but to me they suck.
The nuance is just not there for me. Changing from kit #38 to kit #82 isn't going to give me 20 different tones out of my snare drum. I can get a different snare sound just by going from matched to trad grip... no rubber pad or mesh head is ever going to pick that up.
On the practise thing... when my original heavy rock band is/was working through new material, we practiced acoustically. I would use my pad setup and the singer just sang acoustically and the bass and guitar played through practise amps on 1. Every one can hear what is going on and can talk mid song about what needs fixing. If we were all using headphones to monitor ourselves, we couldn't do that.
Plus how good is your gig gonna go when the e-brain dies or your cables/jacks/pads/sensors play up.
And, real drums look the part...
Na, definitely NOT for me... but hey I'm old school... na, just old... ;-)
Solomio
Canada/MontrealMar 16th, 2010 07:50 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Very valid points Laz and you're right.
I heard tell of a drummer this evening who is actually going about disguising his eletro set with an old acrylic set his has.
Of course you have the eletronics failure worry but lets face it you've got that worry with tube amps, pedals, rack mounts, pc's.....
Hey I'm surprised more drummers didn't jump in head first on this topic.
solomio
Lazmo
OzMar 16th, 2010 11:12 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Hey Solomio, you might want to take care... you may get a new guitarist, but you stand to lose your drummer. I would consider e-drums for rehearsals, although I reckon that acoustic rehearsals are even better, but for live gigs... no way, I’d be gone... as there are plenty of other gigs out there.
I’ve got a good mate who has a fairly high profile drumming gig where he uses a real kit, but with mesh heads and triggers. It looks like real drums... but it’s all e-drum sounds happening through the PA. They use a shjtload of triggered sounds during the gig, so it is MIDI city, with it all to a click... as a drummer, he hates it and bjtches and moans to me about it, but he is a monster player and can make pretty much anything work.
So, regarding your drummer... is he/she a basher? I can see the attraction of an e-kit with a basher, just turn him/her down. A cheaper option is to get the drummer to use hot-rods at about 50% the volume of real sticks, not quite the same sound or attack, but usable for really quiet gigs or rehearsals. Another option is to buy him/her the Steve Smith “History of the US Beat” DVD and get his grip/sticking technique down. I have always been able to play quietly if required, it was a necessary part of drumcorps at school, but after learning his grip/sticking technique, it took me to another level... both louder and quieter.
Solomio
Canada/MontrealMar 17th, 2010 01:03 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Thanks Laz. Good to know, esepcially about the stick grip video.
Check out the Pearl Hybrid Kit at the below link.
No no not for live gigs..thats real amps and drums all the way.
Was thinkng about e drums in concert with the headphone amp.
And further to your statement in another thread yes we are practicing more than we're gigging. We're newly formed, building a repertoire, looking for a guitarist and practicing.
Once we're ready hopefully we will be doing more gigging than practicing.
solomio
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