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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Stratocasters / Micro-Tilt Adjustment Advice Needed
FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Stratocasters / Micro-Tilt Adjustment Advice Needed
5Strats
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Witness Protection ProgramJul 20th, 2010 07:46 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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My '91 Jeff Beck Strat still has some fret buzz issues in the upper frets, even after having the guitar set up by a supposedly good tech.
Could this be a micro-tilt adjustment issue? The action is not too low, so that's not the problem.
I got the instructions for doing such adjustments from Fender.com, but I must confess I've never had to make one of these adjustments before.
Also -- shims vs. micro-tilt?
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We had the hit but Van got the moneyJul 20th, 2010 08:01 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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It's most likely you're getting a common Strat issue, which is a hump in the fingerboard above the 12th fret. Just a hunch, mind you. If that's the case, it needs a fret level & crown job.
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Witness Protection ProgramJul 20th, 2010 08:16 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Thanks, I'll look into confirming that that's the issue and, if so, getting the fret level and crown work done.
So it couldn't be a micro-tilt/shim issue?
stratcowboy
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USA/Taos, NMJul 20th, 2010 08:19 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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It could be, but I'm not personally a big fan of the micro-tilt feature. I think shims with full surface-to-surface contact are a better solution. Something you can always try and then reverse very easily.
SoK66
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We had the hit but Van got the moneyJul 20th, 2010 11:03 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Ditto. I've never been a big fan of the micro-tilt.
You can check for high frets in that area with a 6 inch metal rule or other short straightedge. Stewart-MacDonald sells a short one called a "Fret Rocker" that works great in that area.
fendrguitplayr
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Common sense isn't...Jul 20th, 2010 01:51 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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If the screw (micro-tilt) is tightened without loosening the neck mounting screws, it places a great deal of pressure on the screws in the neck making it possible to strip or weaken those screw holes.
Tightening the screw against the plate effectively "tilt's" or rises the end of the fingerboard and changes the neck's angle.
While this makes neck angle adjustments seem even easier to do it yourself, I still prefer to place a hardwood shim in the pocket instead of creating a gap.
I'd check the 'fingerboard hump' for a fret level and crown first.
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Witness Protection ProgramJul 20th, 2010 01:54 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I'm going it give another tech a chance to determine the exact issue and provide the solution.
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We had the hit but Van got the moneyJul 20th, 2010 02:44 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Good idea.
I think what we're trying to illustrate is that when you use the micro tilt you lose a certain amount of resonance due to the compromised neck to body contact. I mentioned in another thread that an old Strat lover buddy I new back in the 70s always removed the micro-tilt apparatus completely. Said it improved tone and in some cases he was able to demonstrate it pretty convincingly. It's one of those things you'd have to experiment with 'cuz I'd guess it's going to vary from one guitar to another.
otisian
vancouver
i'm so bad baby i don't careJul 22nd, 2010 03:33 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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i totally get the point and for the most part agree...but in a lot of folks cases, the micro tilt is very handy...and besides there's already a big burrow in the neck with a metal rod/nut there....and the m.t. usually doesn't need much of a twist...even with a shim there's some loss of wood to wood contact.
sixa
USAJul 22nd, 2010 06:21 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Not to mention that the adjustment you would probably need to make to the micro-tilt adjustment would be backing it out, not raising it higher. The micro-tilt may already be in use from the factory.
JimmieT
WA StateJul 26th, 2010 04:55 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I agree with sixa. You need the opposite of the mt. If it was me, I'd loosen the strings, loosen the neck screws, loosen the mt back a lot so you know its will be clear, tighten up the neck screws and the mt until it's just snug and doesn't rattle and then retighten your strings and see what you have.
otisian
vancouver
i'm so bad baby i don't careJul 26th, 2010 07:21 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Come to think of it, my microtilt was in use when i bought my am dlx too...it isn't now (just screwed enough not to be loose) and the action is lower (but that's more because of other tweaks).
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