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ECS-3
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Dec 27th, 2010 11:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A friend of mine has called me - he want's to get rid of his father's Hammond RT-2 organ. So I agreed to take it, basically for free!

You don't hear as much about this model as the "B" and "C" models but the RT-2 is a full sized console with 2 x 61 key manuals, full complement of drawbars, tonewheel generator, and vibrato scanner.

The RT-2 also has 32 bass pedals, compared to the "B" and "C" models, which have 25 pedals. Also the RT-2 has a 'Pedal Solo Unit' which adds harmonics to the bass pedals making the tones bright enough to solo on. The Pedal Solo Unit also provides a couple "32-foot stops" which are extremely low bass notes.

The Tone Cabinet is a Hammond HR40, which a 40 watt all tube cabinet with 9 x 10" bass speakers and 2 x 12" treble speakers plus a reverb unit.

As best as I can determine by the serial number the RT-2 dates to about 1951.

Its been in my friend's garage under blankets for at least 10 years so I'll have some work to do getting it back running again.

Should be a good winter project one I get it moved (500 lbs!!).

Ramblin Rhodes

LoneStarState

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Dec 27th, 2010 01:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nice find!!
If it has not been in operation for 10 years, I would seriously consider checking the tone wheel generator for lubrication and freedom of movement before attempting to turn it with the start motor.
RR

ECS-3
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Dec 27th, 2010 01:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks.

I"m concerned about the tonewheel generator lube and also all the electrolytic caps in the preamp and power amp. I may just go ahead and pull all the chassis out and see what they need before trying to start it, as you are recommending.

Its been at least 10 years, maybe more. I took a look at it this weekend. I saw some mice droppings but I didn't see anything that looked chewed on. Still there's a TON of wiring in there to chew on so who knows what I'll find.

Riverside
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Dec 29th, 2010 05:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That's a great piece, and there's lots of helpful folks in the world of Hammonds who can help you every step of the way.

ECS-3
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Dec 29th, 2010 06:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I can't find a RT-2 video on Youtube, but here's a pretty good comparison of the RT-3, C-2, and A100 Hammond consoles.

The RT-3 was the next upgrade to the RT-2 with 'percussion' added.

Really, all three of these consoles demo'd sound very similar.

RT-3, C-2, and A100 console demo

(This message was last edited by ECS-3 at 06:41 PM, Dec 29th, 2010)

Riverside
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Dec 29th, 2010 07:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Like the B-2, the C-2, etc... The major difference between an RT-2 and an RT-3 was the addition of the percussion circuit.

It can be added on with bits from places like Trek-II - but unless you have the killer solo technique, you might just not ever miss it.

Warren Pederson

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Feb 8th, 2011 11:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had a Hammond M3, do you not have to screw down the tonewheel before you transport it?

ECS-3
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Feb 10th, 2011 02:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You're supposed to screw it down to help prevent breaking wires connected to the generator - and there are a lot of them connected.

Update on my status. I finally got a place cleared out in my basement for the RT-2 so we're just waiting for things to dry up some before moving it.

Riverside
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Feb 10th, 2011 02:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I whole-heartedly suggest that you find a set of Roll-or-Kari dollies to move it.

It's still heavy, but having the right tool for the job is very helpful.

Riverside
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Mar 14th, 2011 11:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Tell us about it!

ECS-3
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Apr 11th, 2011 04:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This project is still going to happen but I have had to put it off a while.

I was recently diagnosed with prostate cancer and had my prostate removed on March 28. Everything went fine and I'm home recovering now. I'll post back to this thread once I get the organ delivered but right now I can't do much of anything.



Riverside
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Apr 11th, 2011 09:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thoughts are with you. Get well.

ECS-3
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May 22nd, 2012 01:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I"m all recovered from my surgery now so I"m going to be contacting my friend to see if he still wants to part with this old Hammond. The biggest problem facing the two of us is going to be moving the thing. I cleared out space in my basement for the refurb project over a year ago before it got put on hold.

I'll post again once I know something definate.

He told me the organ worked last time he used it, but it's been sitting in his garage now for maybe 10 years. When I went out to look it over I could see some places where field mice have chewed. Hopefully it's not too bad.

Riverside
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May 22nd, 2012 01:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Make the effort to find some Roll-R-Kari dollies - it makes moving the beast so very much easier than otherwise...

!0 years? No problem. Those machines were so over-engineered that they might just last forever. Get some oil (and while there have been some arguments over which one to use, a light sewing machine oil or, heaven forfend, some real-live Hammond oil) will go a long way towards making the tonewheel generator safe for another 50 years, anyway.

Go look for schematics - they're out there by the ton - and pay particular attention to the mains wiring that runs pretty much unshielded throughout out the open back - you can get bit. It's not a bad idea to plan on replacing some of that wiring as a matter of course.

You might also want to look up the Hammond Users Group on Yahoo and ask some questions there. There are some great guys who are more than willing to answer questions. Also - don't be afraid to send a shout to FDP member Hammond101. He's a good guy who has a lot of experience.

New Hammond day is something to remember!


amphead4

Cincinnati, USA

May 22nd, 2012 01:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This is so cool.

There was an M3 (or maybe it was a M100) with tone cabinet for $70 at the thrift store and I passed it over so I could remain married.

Hammond101
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May 22nd, 2012 02:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"When I went out to look it over I could see some places where field mice have chewed. Hopefully it's not too bad."

If had a dime for every mouse or rat turd I cleaned out of a Hammond console or Leslie cab I could buy dinner at the ritz.

Those little suckers chew on the wiring but that's the easy part. It's the liquid waste that does the damage.

That RT2 weighs about 500 lbs. Make sure you rent the ROK dollies that Riverside mentions. You may even want to invest in a set. You may need more than two of you for a move down the stairs. A low trailer with a ramp is helpfull or rent a truck with a lift gate.

I moved my RT3 two weeks ago for new carpeting in the the house. With the ROKs attached I was able to lift it over the patio door sill and out to the patio single handedly.

amphead4 wrote:

"There was an M3 (or maybe it was a M100) with tone cabinet for $70 at the thrift store and I passed it over so I could remain married."

I have to tell you how I met Riverside back in The mid 2000's. I had a Hammond A100 & Lesie 51 in the garage that was my #1. I had purchased a M101 and Leslie on the cheap to refurbish and resell and the ex wife went nuts. All the Hammond stuff was sold in short order and Riverside placed the winning bid on eBay for the A100 and Leslie. We've been Buds ever since. The ex is long gone and I have an RT3 in the livingroom. I buy and resell tonewheel Hammonds when I find a good fixer upper and life is good.



Riverside
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May 22nd, 2012 03:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Your #1 - in the garage.

I want a refund.

amphead4

Cincinnati, USA

May 23rd, 2012 08:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd love to have one. My aunt bought a M100 new around 1960 and probably gave it away in the early '90s.

ninworks
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Too Much GAS
Apr 23rd, 2013 08:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have had 3 different Hammonds. I had a M2, M3, and now have a RT-3. I traded the M2 and 100 bucks for the M3 back in the early 80's. I bought the RT-3 on ebay a few years ago and had to move the M3 out onto the patio so the RT-3 had a place in the house to live.

I tried and tried to sell the M3 for $200 but nobody wanted it. Then I tried giving it away.....and nobody wanted it. I tried to donate it to a church and they didn't want it. My wife's cousin finally found another church that took it. I happily delivered it to them. I'm not sure they ever used it but I'm glad I didn't have to throw it away just to get it off the patio.

I recently bought a Leslie 145 to add to my old 46W. I bought the 145 to use on guitar but the RT-3 sounds great through both of them at once.

I love the RT-3. It's a monster of a unit. The 32' stop on the bass pedals is INCREDIBLE! As us guitar players like to say, "It's got BAWLS!"

Here it is

garp
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Apr 24th, 2013 04:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nice!

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