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teledeluxe

Chicago, IL

2 wrongs don't make a right/3 lefts do
Jan 21st, 2011 08:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Searching for people with blonde piggyback heads. Specifically for anyone who has the type with a cutout hole for the dogbone handle that ALSO has a zinc plate covering it.

Is your handle a dogbone or a blackface style?

Rickplayer

USA

Jan 21st, 2011 09:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Dogbone!

Rickplayer

USA

Jan 21st, 2011 09:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

They filled in the hole for the new handle. There is still a recess but no metal plate and the tolex covers the hole.

teledeluxe

Chicago, IL

2 wrongs don't make a right/3 lefts do
Jan 21st, 2011 09:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm confused.

Rickplayer, does the bottom of your head cab have a giant hole in it like a brownface or does it just have a recessed area like a blackface?

I don't think I've ever seen one with the recessed area with an original dogbone handle...

Anyway, I'm specifically wanting feedback from those that have the metal plate that covers the hole.

Perhaps you were saying that the ones with the metal cover have the blackface style handle. That's what I'm trying to find out. If that was the only time they used the plate.

(This message was last edited by teledeluxe at 09:21 AM, Jan 21st, 2011)

plexi69

U.S.A.

HEY THERE, HI THERE, HO THERE
Jan 21st, 2011 02:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a blonde Bassman head with the cut out and plate on the bottom of the cab and a dog bone on top as the handle, if that is what your asking about.

(This message was last edited by plexi69 at 02:25 PM, Jan 21st, 2011)

teledeluxe

Chicago, IL

2 wrongs don't make a right/3 lefts do
Jan 21st, 2011 03:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Exactly what I'm asking. Thanks. Anybody else?

slickfaster

U.S.

Jan 22nd, 2011 06:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

1962, 6g6a, dog bone, hole but no metal plate.

(This message was last edited by slickfaster at 06:51 PM, Jan 22nd, 2011)

rcebulski
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Chicagoland IL USA

Jan 22nd, 2011 07:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

1962 6G6A Dogbone handle, large opening, but no metal plate.
Bob

centervolume

USA

its only rotten roe, but I like it
Jan 22nd, 2011 08:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

january of 63 bandmaster, hole, no plate

Naked Clarke

NJ, USA

Southbound
Jan 23rd, 2011 07:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

In the Bassman amp the cutout transitioned into a tolex covered groove in the early 1963 6G6B model around s/n 5600 or so and coincided with the change over to the flat handle. There will be exceptions, as we have all come to appreciate. The metal plates covering the cutouts were easily and often removed. If the two screw holes are present in the bottom of the cab then it was most likely installed originally then later removed.

shoudek
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USA

MH
Jan 23rd, 2011 08:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

61 - 6G9 Tremolux - Zinc Plate - Dogbone

(This message was last edited by shoudek at 08:41 AM, Jan 23rd, 2011)

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ES335TD
Jan 23rd, 2011 05:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

'63 Blonde Bassman, blackface style.

Rickplayer

USA

Jan 25th, 2011 08:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sorry,
I thought thats what I said. Cutout = dogbone.

The plate is often missing. Why????

teledeluxe

Chicago, IL

2 wrongs don't make a right/3 lefts do
Jan 25th, 2011 09:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Okay, so I already knew that:
Dogbone = cutout
Flat = tolex recess

What I was speculating is that the plates were only put on the leftover cabinets they had when they switched over to the new flat-style handle. Looks like that theory is debunked.

I think someone put on the newer style handle in error when they retolexed my head... Or the dogbone broke years ago and the only replacement they could find was the new style. Or, when someone painted the tolex black they switched to the new style handle to better match it.

Does anyone have a head cabinet with the plate AND the flat handle stock?

teledeluxe

Chicago, IL

2 wrongs don't make a right/3 lefts do
Jan 25th, 2011 10:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Actually, after doing a google image search for 1963 tremolux I'm find several other examples with the same cosmetics as mine: rough blonde, wheat grille, flat logo, flat handle. Can't say for sure on the metal cover over the hole, but at least it is possible my head originally had rough tolex with a flat handle...

Rickplayer

USA

Jan 25th, 2011 12:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Oh it definitely could have had rough tolex on wheat grill. They went from rough/oxblood to rough/wheat to smooth/wheat to smooth/champagne to blackface. I am sure they put the new handles on the specific model when they ran out of dogbones. I would think any combination is possible.

plexi69

U.S.A.

HEY THERE, HI THERE, HO THERE
Jan 25th, 2011 01:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

shoudek,
Is your 6G9 the model with the 6BQ5/ EL84 power tubes?


teledeluxe

Chicago, IL

2 wrongs don't make a right/3 lefts do
Jan 25th, 2011 01:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Seen a lot of rough blonde with wheat. It was the other appointments that had me.

For instance I'd never personally seen these combos:
rough blonde with flat handle (exists)
flat logo with flat handle (exists)
smooth blonde with flat logo (possible)
smooth blonde with dogbone handle (possible)
raised logo with oxblood grille (improbable)
raised logo with dog bone (possible)
oxblood grille with flat handle (improbable)

Wheat grille overlaps practically everything in this era except black tolex.

My personal favorite looking combo is the smooth blonde, gold sparkle grill, raised logo, flat handle -- though all the ones I've seen with a numbered faceplate/white knobs of this type had a wheat grille. Not sure if the gold sparkle exists with any actual 6G_-B amps.

(This message was last edited by teledeluxe at 01:59 PM, Jan 25th, 2011)

Bayou Tony
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USA

Bayou Tony
Jan 28th, 2011 11:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

1961 rough blond/oxblood Tremolux, 6BQ5, cutout, zinc plate, brown handle (I think).

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