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FDP Forum / Tin Pan Alley - Songwriting / My songwriting is becoming as infrequent....

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T-boned and punctured
Dec 2nd, 2011 07:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

...as posts in this forum. Just sayin'.


So who else has hit a major dry spell?

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QLD Australia

Dec 4th, 2011 11:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

your's is the first post in 4 months so I don't think you're alone.

The regular posters don't seem to be around much on the FDP let alone on this forum.

I think the truth is that there aren't many good song writer's around and there are more productive things to do with them than talk about them here if they are any good.

Just my assessment.

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T-boned and punctured
Dec 5th, 2011 09:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, that can be applied to any of these forums actually.

(A little less Ebay a little more Mel Bay, etc.)

It was more a forum pity bump anyway. Carry on.


usa/ Northwest IN

You say you`re leavin,I`ll help you pack
Jan 2nd, 2012 07:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

as marital relations after the "I Do" part?? LOL, me too, my lame excuse is that I`m always in at least one cover band and don`t get around to it often. But the one original one I have that we do play out with always seems to go over well, even if it is a dated `80`s style arena rock tune??

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Huntington Beach

Merry New Year!
Feb 2nd, 2012 10:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've admittedly tapered off drastically with writing. Mostly because I don't really have an outlet since I no longer have a band. I kind of fell into writing when my band started preferring the originals I wrote to our covers. That inspiration had me writing quite a bit for a while until it became obvious that no one was really helping me. To make matters worse, if I didn't come up with material and "orchestrate" the band's parts myself, the songs would never see the light of day. This frustration really began to wear on me.

It came to a head when I put my foot down about recording our material. The band was all too eager to play sloppy gigs, but when it came time to putting together a nice tight recording, I realized serious faults with the band. At my age it has become important to record my originals as a testament to the work we've done as a band. We'd been playing numerous gigs with far lesser bands who had multiple produced albums. They were able to sell CD's and merch at gigs, and while their music may not have been as good as ours, (my opinion only) they were able to build fans simply by giving the crowd something to take with them and listen to over and over. With nothing to fans, how long do you think it takes for the crowd to forget your hard worked originals?

After one wasted studio session where the drummer basically used the entire day, due to his inconsistent drumming, I decided to self-record at home instead of wasting it in the studio. The point was to isolate each member of the band to highlight the areas where they needed work, have recorded demos, then when we were ready, book more studio time. This is where the band really fell apart. The grind of studio perfection really wore the band down, but had the complete opposite effect on me. My creativity grew by leaps and bounds and I began to really push my technique and skills. After recording my normal guitar parts and listening to play backs, I would be hit with intense light bulb moments that really improved the songs. Suddenly I was adding twin harmonies, fills, back up vocals, you name it.

Each new idea fueled me to practice things I never attempted before. My technique improved immensely and the new things I was doing really gave more life to the songs I had written. I was adding in more back up vocals and harmony in addition to guitar stuff and felt the songs were now reaching a level I was proud to put out. I also noticed the band was not keeping up. My other guitar player was not memorizing his parts and I'd have to constantly reteach him. Bass player started skipping out and really not practicing on his own. Pretty soon, I learned many of the band members were joining other bands. Here I am working so hard to make out band the best band it could be, and they were too busy working on other bands.

I had enough. I called a hiatus for the band to give them freedom to persue their other projects. I figured since I was doing all the writing and arranging anyway, I would just produce demos on my own and call them in when I needed them. At first, it worked out well. I was able to do some good demos on my own using drum software and playing bass myself. But due to lack of critical feedback, I became less and less motivated in my endeavors and my writing really slowed down. To make things worse, I started picking up new hobbies, like fishing!

My bass player formed his own band, taking my drummer with him, who he's since fired. His band is fronted by his electric violin playing wife. No guitar at all in that band. Bass player plays through a giant pedal board using a huge array of tones to cover guitar territory. The violin also goes through a ton of FX pedals and plays noting but horrid whole notes for the entire song. Not my cup of tea. My singer, (who used to play bass) began playing repetitive bass lines in a reggae band. I think they are more interested in smoking dope than gigging or recording, cause I haven't seen them do anything.

I've slowly gotten back to music again, but still not much writing. Mostly playing and learning jazz to improve my theory, and also started working on my singing. Hopefully, I'll be able to get back to writing and be able to perform everything myself. My old drummer wants to get things started back up again, but just don't know if I'm interested to invest that much effort and emotion into another "band" project again.

Sorry for the autobiography but your question opened the flood gates!

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Vancouver, Canada

Feb 21st, 2012 09:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

ghodaddyyo, that was a great post~ i can relate to many things you said. i know where you're coming from. although not the same exact situation for me, but similar problems with bands.



Apr 1st, 2012 02:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I go through dry spells most of the year, but there's always a good few months where I'm writing quite a bit. I kind of gave up the idea of having a band and have been mostly interested in writing complete songs. Melodies, lyrics, and chords/riffs. So hopefully one day, if I have enough decent tunes, I could make a real record. For fun though- not really trying to do anything else serious. If that were to work out, maybe I could get a group together and tour with whomever I know that's touring for a small stint of dates. I have friends that do this for a living. I just want to have fun though. I'll be ok if none of this ever happens, as long as I'm writing tunes. I do get somewhat depressed when I'm not writing- as if I'm not contributing anything.

Maybe you guys would be down to share some tunes? I have some rough recordings of complete songs. Just for constructive crit- might help us get out of our dry spells...

Florida Mike
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I can only Sing my Heart
Apr 7th, 2012 12:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Leutch--- use the force.... You can do it!

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Too Much GAS
Dec 27th, 2014 05:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My dry spell got a few drinks lately. Now I'm tearing my studio apart and moving across the country. I don't know when I'll have everything up and running again.

I just finished a year-long dry spell. Now that the juices are flowing I can't do anything with them. Isn't that the way it is? Life is always getting in the way.

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Ocala, Fla

Dec 27th, 2014 07:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ah, a 3 year old thread. Fortunately I've had some springs bubble up through the arid desert. Well, sometimes they sputter, but its brought some life back. When I initially posted this thread little did I know what was around the corner. A lot of bad followed by a life changing decision to leave my job of 34 years and move south. Life's good and I have my micro studio available 24/7, so its up to me.

Best of luck nin, maybe a change of scenery will be a good thing.

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Too Much GAS
Dec 27th, 2014 08:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks littleuch. My job of 30 years is drowning and I don't want to be there when it can't come up for air again. The lousy economy is taking its toll.

At least Mrs. Nin will have a good-paying, full-time, job, after the move. I'm sure I can find something to do for some income. Probably won't make as much money but I'll take what I can get. I've never had trouble finding a job but I have never been 57 before either. I'm sure that will be detrimental. Who knows, maybe I can get a job working at Gibson. They are in Nashville. The employee discount would save me lots of money. :o)


Willoughby, OH , USA

I'm arrogant and a moron
Jan 30th, 2015 11:57 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So many good song ideas come when you don't have time to sit down in your home studio. Precisely whY I have a small, hand held, digital recorder. find I can go out to my car at lunch, figure out the changes on a beater that I keep for such purposes and lay a rough demo track. Can pulli t out months later and do a better quality demo when I have time.

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