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FDP Forum / The 'Pup' Tent / Love Hot Noiseless but need a beefy bridge PU

Fr@mus

Uruguay - S. America

Fender...Love of my life
Jan 1st, 2012 07:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The thing is I have the Hot Noiseless set in one of my strats, but I dislike the bridge PU because I find it trebly. So I ask for suggestion to replace it and then get more midrange, bass, punch but -and this is important- still have same or near output to not overwhelm middle and neck PU's. Thanks!

champster
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Oceanside, CA

Jan 1st, 2012 10:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Do you have the bridge pickup wired to the tone control? This helps quite a bit.

Fr@mus

Uruguay - S. America

Fender...Love of my life
Jan 1st, 2012 11:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Do you have the bridge pickup wired to the tone control? This helps quite a bit."

Indeed Champster, and helps a lot but I still would like to have more thick, you know, round note. Maybe the lack of is for the maple neck or floating tremolo?
What about a Hot Gold dually 6K and the HN together?
But as I said, I need to have the 3 pickups of similar output. I tried as alternative a DiMarzio Paf Pro 36th Anniv. but I won't be able to adjust them to a good overall balance. Very frustating

montana63

seattleUSA

stay away from rugs
Jan 2nd, 2012 05:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have hot noiseless in one of my strats and I actually really like having the "trebly" bridge pup there. it's great for getting a really trebly sound, then there are the other four positions all of which are somewhat less trebly...

sorry I couldn't resist :)

but I have another strat with DiMarzio HS2 and HS3 in the neck and middle positions, and a NECK version Duncan lil'59 in the bridge position. the lil'59N is slightly less hot than the bridge verion and as long as I don't crank it up too high it balances easily with the volume of the other pups. and it is quite mid-rangey. snotty... snarly, even...

food for thought

RicOkc

Nicoma Park, OK.

"Let the music do the talking"
Jan 3rd, 2012 04:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've got Hot Noiseless pups in the neck & mid position with a JB Jr. in the bridge wired to the lower tone control.

Fr@mus

Uruguay - S. America

Fender...Love of my life
Jan 3rd, 2012 08:05 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks folks, so it seems I have to choices to consider; JB Jr. and Lil'59- and I see the neck option of the last one could it be interesting, less output than the bridge one but more trebly I guess

Rick Plays The Blues

Austria

May I try that again?
Jan 15th, 2012 10:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There is a neck version of the JB Jr. as well, afaik.

mrfix

canada

Jan 19th, 2012 06:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Bridge pickup is traditionally trebly due to the location.

Before you replace pickups, Try these two options.
(1) Tilt the pickup. Lower the high E away from the strings and raise the low E closer to the strings.
(2)Changing the pickup load may solve this for you with no output loss or mud.
On the selector switch, connect a 500k 1/8 or 1/4 watt resistor from the terminal connected to the bridge pickup wire, to ground. If this is not enough treble reduction use a 300k resistor.

If this is not enough, you are now moving into humbucker territory. A single size humbucker wired to taste, either series or parallel coils(or switchable for both).



Hoodster

Mike in Oregon

U can add dirt, but U can't add clean
Jan 31st, 2012 01:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I went from Hot Noiseless to the Duncan SSL-5 (David Gilmour pickup). Enormous improvement with very similar output.

montana63
Contributing Member

seattleUSA

stay away from rugs
Feb 5th, 2012 04:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

hey Hoodster care to elaborate on "Enormous Improvement"?


hotblooze
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World Traveler

Feb 5th, 2012 07:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

To stay true to single coil tones yet noiseless and thicker sounding, try Kinman's AVn64 Hank Marvin bridge pickup. This pickup does not sound humbucking nor P90ish but true single coil twang with a much rounder,sweeter,transparent tone.

Strat bridge pickup without sounding shrill and piercing.

Hoodster

Mike in Oregon

U can add dirt, but U can't add clean
Feb 5th, 2012 07:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The SSL-5 is all a Strat bridge pup should be but rarely is--clear and punchy, never thin or wimpy, but retaining all the great quack in the mid/bridge position. The hot noiseless did not sound at all like a true single coil to me--major lack of the 3d richness.

Here's a clip of my SSL-5:

Apache

Hoodster

Mike in Oregon

U can add dirt, but U can't add clean
Feb 5th, 2012 07:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

And another.

Love Ain't for Keeping

montana63
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seattleUSA

stay away from rugs
Feb 5th, 2012 09:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

thanks!
single coils are new to me, and I am trying out the various noiseless offerings because the hum does annoy me. probably in part because I am used to humbuckers and my "clean" sound is a few notches up in gain and compression from yours.

I like the Hot Noiseless and the DiMarzios but they are clearly meant for "rock" sounds! those SSL-5's might be just the ticket for setting up one of my strats for pure classic single coil tones...

thanks for the lessons

sorry for the hijack

Alderandash
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QLD Australia

Feb 5th, 2012 10:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"So I ask for suggestion to replace it and then get more midrange, bass, punch but -and this is important- still have same or near output to not overwhelm middle and neck PU's."

How about a Fender SCN bridge pup. I think you can get what you are looking for there and still retain a lot of the twang and chime of the strat bridge position.

To me the SSL 5 as played by Hoodster has lost the the twang and chime I associate with a strat and not in keeping with the neck and middle Hot Noiseless pups you want to keep.

Hoodster

Mike in Oregon

U can add dirt, but U can't add clean
Feb 6th, 2012 07:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Not sure what you're hearing (or not hearing) in those YT videos (which like most have so-so sound quality at best), but the SSL-5 bridge has WAY more "twang and chime" than the Hot Noiseless bridge, which frankly sounds quite deadened in comparison.

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