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Juice Nichols

Panama City, FL

Same ol **** but my hair's longer
Mar 21st, 2012 09:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just tell him it doesn't sound very good and he's not ready. I would hope that wouldn't hurt his feelings.

Feelings aside, if you're playing for money you won't be playing for money very long if the music sounds like crap.

Rehersal is one thing. Gigs are entirely different.

Tony Wright

Stillwater, OK

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Mar 21st, 2012 05:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Send him a link to this thread. 'nuff said.

ghodaddyyo
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Huntington Beach

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Mar 21st, 2012 05:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Still loling at Lester's response!

gdw3
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LA-la-land, CA

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Mar 22nd, 2012 10:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"At least show him how to play the solo on that song."

Agreed. Show him something real simple and tasty that he can pull off with ease.

Also, I would add that you record it the next practice, with your solo and his. See if he even hears the clams. If not, then you do have a problem. Hopefully, tho, he will hear them and will want to improve.

waxcomb

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Mar 23rd, 2012 11:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

How'd a guy with such little experience get a paying gig?


Ryder
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Northwest Missouri

Butterscotch Blues
Mar 24th, 2012 06:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"How'd a guy with such little experience get a paying gig?"

He's their rhythm guitarist.

Juice Nichols

Panama City, FL

Same ol **** but my hair's longer
Mar 24th, 2012 07:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"my colleague has been playing for about 2 years and is still feeling his way a little on chords."

It doesn't sound like he's very adept at rhythm guitar either.

This sounds like a situation I was in some years ago. We started out as just some dudes jamming and having fun. That turned into a few paying gigs here and there, which eventually turned into a regular weekend gig. There was a few guys that was fine to play with when we were just having fun, but they weren't even close to being ready for a paying gig. Needless to say it got a little ugly when it started to become a regular deal and we had to cut bait with those guys.

Not saying that you need to dump this guy, but if you're serious about paying gigs, you can't afford to have guys that have trouble keeping up. If you're just doing it to have a good time and play a party here and there, keep him around and help him get better.

Fritz_D_Cat
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Mar 24th, 2012 12:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

paying gig? doesn't have to be 'pretty', but - on time, in tune, and in key - bare minimum.

Gold Sparkle

Germany

too old to die young
Mar 24th, 2012 10:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I would let him play solo at practice. Then record it and let him listen. May be he won´t play solo anymore. If he is a good rhythm player he should recognize if it´s good or not.

littleuch
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Mar 25th, 2012 07:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sometimes the biggest infraction is not the clams served up by the inexperienced, but their inability to be objective and not hear/feel it for what it is. You hate to shoot down someone's enthusiasm and stunt their desire to grow as a musician. But something was lost in perception that made him take a foolish leap at gig time. He now unfortunately needs the blunt end of the reality hammer.

urby
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Mar 25th, 2012 10:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd just drop the song. Cocaine is a crap song.

littleuch
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Michigan

T-boned and punctured
Mar 25th, 2012 11:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Or that^

lol

Deacon Blues
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With a big iron on

his hip.
Mar 25th, 2012 02:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

^
Yep, that

It ain't funny. }8:(

jazz-singer

Arizona, USA

Mar 25th, 2012 02:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You should play banjo, bagpipes or harmonica on whatever songs he wants to play the solo for. In for a penny, in for a pound.

Fast Lane Pablo

USA

Mar 25th, 2012 02:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Record it and have the whole band listen back. Offering to coach him until he's ready for prime time would be a nice move.

Stephene

Australia

Apr 3rd, 2012 07:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I would have thought that any one in a band would be able to recognise his/her limitations...if you are playing a solo and the rest of the band thinks it sounds like crap then the player should be able to pick that up as well..I share rythm and lead with our other guitar player who is a much finer lead player than I..the solo's I do are mine and his are his ..never do we swap even at rehearsal...there is no point me wanting to do any of his as he plays them better than I and vice versa...if this gut wants to solo I suggest he bring new song suggestions to the band already being able to play the solos and then he makes them his...easily fixed
As for cocaine it should be your solo...

Cheers

Dr Bass MD
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Apr 4th, 2012 08:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm with SpinDoctor and Greg - show him some tips and tricks and 'right' notes and timing.

Stratotron

USA

Apr 5th, 2012 08:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A liitle off track, but I feel like sharing, maybe it will turn into "Sharing Solos..How did you get there?"
I grew up in Riverside Ca. When I was 16,(circa "67) there were jam sessions on Wednesday nights at the Art Center during the summer. At that time, I had been a "folk guitar player" that had transitioned to electric bass guitar, and was playing in blues bands. I had also started guitar lessons from one on the local players and has learned 9th chords and a couple of simple blues bends. The guys that I played with at the time were really great players, and for high school guys we actually gigged alot. Anyway back to the jam session. Our guitarist's older brother played with a local blues harp player named Rod Piazza. Well Rod's band, including horns and B3 and some buddies of theirs from LA, were the foundational players for this session. I asked one of the players that was there, if I could play electric rhythm on "Kansas City", he said yes and strapped me in to his Telecaster. Our guitar player was playing lead, and I was as happy as a clam until,horns cookin'- B3 swirlin', the the lead player reached over and hit the switch on the guitar I was playing and yelled "take one"!! I had one bendy lick that I just played over and over and over again...the longest 12 bars in history.

I walked away from that session totally humiliated, and swore by the Hammer of Thor, that would NEVER happen to me again, the next time someone points at me and says take one, I would have something to say!

What doesn't kill us (hopefully) makes us stronger.

mrblues
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record of her favorite blues.
Apr 11th, 2012 04:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Take it Tommy!

No!!


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AceLuby

MN

Workin on my chops
Apr 12th, 2012 02:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cocaine shouldn't be too bad to teach him a couple tricks for a solo. I mainly play lead in my acoustic cover band, but have recently started teaching the rhythm guitarist some basic theory, scales, and solos so he could share on some of the more basic songs. I've been finding it fun watching him get better and try to find more songs that would fit his style. He's been enjoying practices more as well. I say work w/ him.

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