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5Strats
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Mar 27th, 2012 12:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Our drummer told our singer/rhythm player that he didn't like doing click offs with his sticks so they worked out new intros to a bunch of our before last Saturday's show.

This made knowing when to come in in a bit awkward for me. (:oD

Is there some new thing that says click offs and count offs are somehow uncool or not professional?

"One, two, three, FOUR!" Dee Dee Ramone

MadeInJapan
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Mar 27th, 2012 12:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

RockBand

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Mar 27th, 2012 12:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Apparently, we didn't that memo either, 5.

MLC - hopelessly uncool and unprofessional


"...so they worked out new intros to a bunch of our before last Saturday's show.

This made knowing when to come in in a bit awkward for me."

And they didn't think to include the rest of the band in the new tricks?



5Strats
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Mar 27th, 2012 12:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

MLC - We almost never practice because everyone lives so far apart. I have no idea why they thought this was a good idea.

Most of these new intros start with rhythm guitar. But if you don't know how many bars the intro is supposed to be, it can be a challenge.

At least we were just headlining on a bill with 3 other bands. (:oD

Hendo

Toronto

Mar 27th, 2012 01:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

>>> But if you don't know how many bars the intro is supposed to be, it can be a challenge. >>>>

The only thing unprofessional is not letting the other band members know how the new intros go.

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Mar 27th, 2012 01:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Right!

garp
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Mar 27th, 2012 01:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Try “Gunter glieben glauben globen” instead.

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Mar 27th, 2012 02:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

On most tunes, the count in is necessary not only for everyone to start together, but to set the tempo or meter count for the song. Playing a song too fast or too slow is much more unprofessional IMHO . . .

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Mar 27th, 2012 04:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think the drummer should do a countdown to the song
Four, Three, Two, One!
That makes more sense to me.

Juice Nichols

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Mar 27th, 2012 04:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I always preferred "ready, set, hike" myself.

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Mar 27th, 2012 04:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd like to see that happen with my current 19 piece band!

Even with a three piece band we had a low volume count off.

As long as you don't do "A one-a and a two-a"

Tony Wright

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Mar 27th, 2012 06:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I dunno...I kind of like the idea of the entire band starting individually whenever they feel the song has reached the point that they can contribute something meaninful...and obviously, I did not contribute said "something meaningful" to this thread. But it is the thought that counts...and a one-a and a two-a...



Stratotron

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Mar 28th, 2012 09:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey! Springsteen counts off in the middle of songs, unpro...uncool...Just sayin'.

Try and play Wooly Bully without..Uno...Dos...Tres...Quatro...

I saw Jethro Tull at a relatively small venue during the "Benefit" tour in the 70s, and could not figure out how they were starting the songs, until I noticed Ian Anderson doing hand signals behind his back. He would be talking and mid-sentence the band would start (explode).

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Mar 28th, 2012 10:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I would like to see a band start a song with amplified, evenly-spaced farts.

I would tip extra.

tonyinbermuda

Bermuda

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Mar 28th, 2012 12:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

On yer marks....


geeet set.....

...wait for it, wait for it...

Go....



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Mar 28th, 2012 08:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Is there some new thing that says click offs and count offs are somehow uncool or not professional?"

I'm not aware of anything. We just count 'em off and go. No problems at all.


I used to play at a large country place and the owner wanted to sing with us. He thought he could sing but couldn't. I remember being about ready to start a song and he goes 1-2-3-4! I say "Whoa, we can't start a waltz like that". He seriously thought that when you got to "4", you just started. Those were fun days.



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Mar 29th, 2012 07:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've been playing in bands since the 70's and this is the FIRST time I've heard anything about this issue.

That's what I get for playing with younger band members. (:oD

jbryan

Minneapolis

Mar 29th, 2012 08:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I agree with Frankie. Some songs, like Cee Lo Green's "Forget You" I start myself with the keyboard/piano patch intro...and there are some our lead guitarists starts. But if it's a song that everyone pretty much starts at the same time, a countoff is a must. Yes, playing a song too fast or slow is indeed unprofessional. Again, certain songs that only one instrument starts is different. Our lead singer sets the temp for "Black Horse and Cherry Tree" by stomping her foot, but KT Tunstall does that too! Just my 2 cents!

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Mar 30th, 2012 11:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't see anything unpro about counts and clicks. Some tunes need them others don't.

IMO cover tunes that originally started "all together" with clicks or a nod will be kinda uncool if somebody adds a guitar intro that is not in the original recording. I can work if properly done on some stuff.

The drummer should not click off songs that start with a solo intro. A couple of pickup note might need to be counted in but a raised and lowered guitar neck can do that.

I go to alot of concerts. The Pros count off many tunes.

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Mar 30th, 2012 03:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The *number one* thing you have to do as a musician, when playing with others, is communicate.

If you're not counting off, then it's every man for himself.

Not very professional at all.

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