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FDP Forum / Performer's Corner / Click Offs & Count Offs - Uncool or Unpro?
FDP Forum / Performer's Corner / Click Offs & Count Offs - Uncool or Unpro?
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5Strats
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i Haz Roc UMar 27th, 2012 12:07 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Our drummer told our singer/rhythm player that he didn't like doing click offs with his sticks so they worked out new intros to a bunch of our before last Saturday's show.
This made knowing when to come in in a bit awkward for me. (:oD
Is there some new thing that says click offs and count offs are somehow uncool or not professional?
"One, two, three, FOUR!" Dee Dee Ramone
MadeInJapan
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Pssst...hode my skiddles...Mar 27th, 2012 12:15 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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MLC
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It's not just good..
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Apparently, we didn't that memo either, 5.
MLC - hopelessly uncool and unprofessional
"...so they worked out new intros to a bunch of our before last Saturday's show.
This made knowing when to come in in a bit awkward for me."
And they didn't think to include the rest of the band in the new tricks?
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i Haz Roc UMar 27th, 2012 12:42 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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MLC - We almost never practice because everyone lives so far apart. I have no idea why they thought this was a good idea.
Most of these new intros start with rhythm guitar. But if you don't know how many bars the intro is supposed to be, it can be a challenge.
At least we were just headlining on a bill with 3 other bands. (:oD
Hendo
TorontoMar 27th, 2012 01:01 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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>>> But if you don't know how many bars the intro is supposed to be, it can be a challenge. >>>>
The only thing unprofessional is not letting the other band members know how the new intros go.
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i Haz Roc UMar 27th, 2012 01:02 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Right!
garp
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Nothing to do but feed all the kangaroosMar 27th, 2012 01:16 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Try “Gunter glieben glauben globen” instead.
Love,
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"programmed for conversational english"Mar 27th, 2012 02:30 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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On most tunes, the count in is necessary not only for everyone to start together, but to set the tempo or meter count for the song. Playing a song too fast or too slow is much more unprofessional IMHO . . .
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She loves my big 10"
record of her favorite blues. Mar 27th, 2012 04:15 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I think the drummer should do a countdown to the song
Four, Three, Two, One!
That makes more sense to me.
Juice Nichols
Panama City, FL
Same ol **** but my hair's longerMar 27th, 2012 04:19 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I always preferred "ready, set, hike" myself.
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Top dog in a litter of muttsMar 27th, 2012 04:49 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I'd like to see that happen with my current 19 piece band!
Even with a three piece band we had a low volume count off.
As long as you don't do "A one-a and a two-a"
Tony Wright
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Built for comfort, not for speed.Mar 27th, 2012 06:19 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I dunno...I kind of like the idea of the entire band starting individually whenever they feel the song has reached the point that they can contribute something meaninful...and obviously, I did not contribute said "something meaningful" to this thread. But it is the thought that counts...and a one-a and a two-a...
Stratotron
USAMar 28th, 2012 09:58 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Hey! Springsteen counts off in the middle of songs, unpro...uncool...Just sayin'.
Try and play Wooly Bully without..Uno...Dos...Tres...Quatro...
I saw Jethro Tull at a relatively small venue during the "Benefit" tour in the 70s, and could not figure out how they were starting the songs, until I noticed Ian Anderson doing hand signals behind his back. He would be talking and mid-sentence the band would start (explode).
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She loves my big 10"
record of her favorite blues. Mar 28th, 2012 10:53 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I would like to see a band start a song with amplified, evenly-spaced farts.
I would tip extra.
tonyinbermuda
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It's got to get better in a little whileMar 28th, 2012 12:31 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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On yer marks....
geeet set.....
...wait for it, wait for it...
Go....
BbendFender
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Throw in a pick and you've got a deal!Mar 28th, 2012 08:09 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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"Is there some new thing that says click offs and count offs are somehow uncool or not professional?"
I'm not aware of anything. We just count 'em off and go. No problems at all.
I used to play at a large country place and the owner wanted to sing with us. He thought he could sing but couldn't. I remember being about ready to start a song and he goes 1-2-3-4! I say "Whoa, we can't start a waltz like that". He seriously thought that when you got to "4", you just started. Those were fun days.
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i Haz Roc UMar 29th, 2012 07:15 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I've been playing in bands since the 70's and this is the FIRST time I've heard anything about this issue.
That's what I get for playing with younger band members. (:oD
jbryan
MinneapolisMar 29th, 2012 08:33 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I agree with Frankie. Some songs, like Cee Lo Green's "Forget You" I start myself with the keyboard/piano patch intro...and there are some our lead guitarists starts. But if it's a song that everyone pretty much starts at the same time, a countoff is a must. Yes, playing a song too fast or slow is indeed unprofessional. Again, certain songs that only one instrument starts is different. Our lead singer sets the temp for "Black Horse and Cherry Tree" by stomping her foot, but KT Tunstall does that too! Just my 2 cents!
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So. Cal. USAMar 30th, 2012 11:24 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I don't see anything unpro about counts and clicks. Some tunes need them others don't.
IMO cover tunes that originally started "all together" with clicks or a nod will be kinda uncool if somebody adds a guitar intro that is not in the original recording. I can work if properly done on some stuff.
The drummer should not click off songs that start with a solo intro. A couple of pickup note might need to be counted in but a raised and lowered guitar neck can do that.
I go to alot of concerts. The Pros count off many tunes.
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The *number one* thing you have to do as a musician, when playing with others, is communicate.
If you're not counting off, then it's every man for himself.
Not very professional at all.
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