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FDP Forum / Fender Bass Guitars and Bass Amps / Let's talk techniques

JackL
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Chico CA

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Apr 17th, 2012 09:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a couple of technique questions and I know you guys will weigh in!

First, at the end of a song when it's crescendo time what do you do? I've morphed into using my middle finger/right hand only and just flick it back and forth at an angle to the string. It's much faster than trying to alter my middle and index fingers. Sometimes I'll also alternate my thumb and middle/ring fingers over most of the strings while holding some form of an octave with my left hand. Near the bridge seems to be the best place to do this with my right hand. I'm an alternating index/middle blues/jazz player.

Secondly, how do you play ghost notes or notes that come very close together? As an example give a listen to Robben Ford's Talk To Your Daughter where Roscoe Beck starts his descending lines in the second verse. How do you get that effect?

Whew...enough already!

Jack

JackL
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Apr 17th, 2012 08:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Dang, I guess nobody wants to talk :(

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Apr 17th, 2012 09:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Perhaps the Performers Corner might be a better place to ask?

JackL
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Apr 17th, 2012 11:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Point taken, Pine. But this all bass all the time - it just seemed logical somehow.

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Apr 17th, 2012 11:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

For ghost notes, used more for rhythmic purposes, I don't fret the note, but slightly lift the fret finger to get a thud. Index finger that ghost note and then use your middle while you fret, producing the actual desired note.





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Apr 18th, 2012 03:05 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sounds to me like the "ghost notes" are fully fretted, & simply played by utilising fast co-ordinated finger technique with the 1st & 2nd digits.

It's quite possible to play notes very quickly, & over all strings, if you practise this technique, & it will also be very usable for your "crescendo time" moments.

Add in the 3rd digit, & all sorts of interesting finger plucking is available. John Entwistle was a master of this.

mooz

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Apr 18th, 2012 05:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Dead Notes >

Just a suggestion: Play dead notes a string above or down to the actual fretted string. This gives you a defined and better percussive sounding dead note instead of playing them on the same fretted string. To execute that you have to apply a raking technique of the plucking fingers. This allow you also getting faster and rapid.

Crescendos >

Do you mean playing faster by getting louder and increasing the plucking movement?

I just call that strumming. I apply my index, middle to the thumb and hit the strings with the digits of all three. The movement came from the wrist excactly like playing with a pick.

I also hit the strings at the heel of the neck.

(This message was last edited by mooz at 05:02 AM, Apr 18th, 2012)

digiboy

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Apr 19th, 2012 01:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Man, the bass section has been unusually quiet. I hope it's cause you guys are all out giggin...

When I play some uptempo country/bluegrass styles I like to flip my finger across the string just below the one I'm about to play on the beat. I don't just deaden it tho, I make sure it's a proper note that will lead melodically into the main one because I do let it sound briefly. I try to time it so it locks with the drummer's cymbal or snare.

I developed this after watching upright bluegrass/rockabilly players who bounce their fingers off the strings and the fingerboard as a percussive effect. My method is as close as I can get to that. Not as percussive but it works and sounds pretty good when I get it tight with train beats and other fast 2 beat country styles.
If the drummer plays a train beat with his sticks on the rim of the snare, it actually will blend with the bass and sound a lot like an upright player doing that bluegrass/rockabilly style slap.

Never seen anyone else do this on electric but I wouldn't be surprised if they did, it's not very difficult really.

Nash Bass

United States

May 1st, 2012 10:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

sometimes just maintaining flesh contact with the string ( left hand) while not pressing down all the way on the string to the neck ( you do not want a spoken note) will provide more of a percussive effect between your notes....but make sure it is clean and aggressive enough without being overpowering.....yes cleanliness is the key

http:// http://www.youtube.com/user/BassSteveBryant?feature=mhee

(This message was last edited by Nash Bass at 11:48 AM, May 2nd, 2012)

Nash Bass

United States

May 1st, 2012 10:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

sorry, try this link -- first of four videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwEKDw53_JE

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