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FDP Forum / Fender Amps: 1985 - Current / Tried the Mustang III today

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Quackerjack Contributing Member ********* USA	Apr 23rd, 2012 04:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic ... and I'm impressed. I've had a CyberDeluxe for years now, and liked the flexibility of the CD, but it looks like Fender has come a long way from the CD days. The MIII seems much more touch-sensitive, and the clean models seem more realistic. I'm considering buying one and putting the CD out on retirement (ebay), but there are some things I will miss - the stereo expander capability of the CD being one of them... Anybody here (Countrydon or Stratquebec perhaps ;-) A/B the MIII with a CyberDeluxe?
AlsoRan Colorado Springs, CO	Apr 23rd, 2012 04:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic I haven't A/B'd it with a CD, but I too am very impressed with the MIII. It's the first modeler I've played that does a truly good clean tube-amp tone.
Quackerjack Contributing Member ********* USA	Apr 23rd, 2012 06:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Are the effects in stereo when using the headphones or USB out?
reverendrob FDP Data Goon Moderator Hero, hero you have done so well...	Apr 23rd, 2012 06:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic USB out would depend on what you're running it through (some sort of DAW I assume), just center the faders for faux stereo. Would assume the headphone is probably similar, most practice amps I've ever seen just sum the signal to both sides. M3 manual should tell you if the effects are stereo though.
telegib Canada	Apr 23rd, 2012 06:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic I played around at home the past weekend with my MIII and I am still truly impressed with the tone and dynamics of this amp. I also set up a great Princeton tone too. I selected the "No Cab" and turned bass on about 8, treble at around 4, gain low on about 4, volume on 10 and used the master volume for overall volume. I get a great clean, wirey tone with that setup. This amp has been my main gigging amp for almost a year now and hasn't disappointed me once. (This message was last edited by telegib at 06:40 PM, Apr 23rd, 2012)
telegib Canada	Apr 23rd, 2012 06:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Yes the effects are stereo using headphone out. I haven't tried the USB for that function. The M IV and MV gives true stereo output through its 2x12"(MIV) or 4x12"(MV)speakers. (This message was last edited by telegib at 06:49 PM, Apr 23rd, 2012)
Quackerjack Contributing Member ********* USA	Apr 23rd, 2012 06:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Thanks rev...going to download the manual tonight and have a read. My bet is that it is full stereo like the CD. The Leslie effects on the CD are really awesome, both on stage with a slave, or via headphones. Thanks telegib... (This message was last edited by Quackerjack at 06:54 PM, Apr 23rd, 2012)
reverendrob FDP Data Goon Moderator Hero, hero you have done so well...	Apr 23rd, 2012 08:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic I keep wanting one of these but have no damn need. It's irrational, I love my two current amps (Jazz Chorus 50 1x12 and a Hot Rod Deluxe), have impressive modelling already in my GR-55 synth, etc. Then again, I still want an original Cybertwin just to watch the knobs spin too.
Quackerjack Contributing Member ********* USA	Apr 23rd, 2012 08:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic I really don't *need* it either... GAS is irrational. I just happened to see one on the floor at Sam Ash, and figured why not. I've been able to get the tones I want out of the CyberDeluxe, but the MIII did them even better - more tube feel and dynamics. Also like the USB connectivity. If I wander back in the store, it just may follow me home, and then I'll have to do some explaining to the CyberDeluxe ;-).
Rob Jai Northern California "Jai" pronounced "J"	Apr 23rd, 2012 08:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Here's a thought. I have three great amps already and so I don't really "need" a Mustang amp either, BUT - what about the Mustang Floor? It could be used with amps that are already owned, and still give you all of the bells and whistles that come with the combos. With that said, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of adding a M-III to the stable sometime down the road. I had the chance to spend some time with one, and it IS a cool amp. (This message was last edited by Rob Jai at 08:34 PM, Apr 23rd, 2012)
reverendrob FDP Data Goon Moderator Hero, hero you have done so well...	Apr 23rd, 2012 08:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic The Mustang floor is somehow less tempting, I know it's a good deal and all relatively, but I just think to myself, "self, you could just get a M3 for that and buy yourself dinner."
mirrorboy Yorkshire, England	Apr 24th, 2012 02:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic This year I retired my Roland Cube 30 and have bought VOX DA5, VOX VT30, Fender Mustang Mini and Fender Mustang I. DA5 is my busking amp, great tone, long battery life and a microphone input. VT30 is now my stage performance amp, excellent power to weight ratio and there is minimal delay when changing patches with the footswitch. Mustang Mini is the one I enjoy the most for playing round the house. It has all the bells and whistles available via FUSE and it plays with a very nice feel at extremely low volume. Mustang I has the best power to weight ratio. It would be redundant if it wasn't so light and easy to carry to band rehearsals and jams. It's not powerful enough for gigs though, and the patch changing is too slow with the Fender footswitch. I have to say that the real winner out of all of these is the Mustang Mini.
telegib Canada	Apr 24th, 2012 06:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic I heard a Mustang II at practice tonight. I had my Mustang III at the same practice. No cigar for the Mustang II. It sounded nice but to me it is a practice amp. Not in the same league as the III. The Mustang III is the best value in size, wattage and price in the Mustang amps. It is also a gigging amp which I have proved several times now.
Quackerjack Contributing Member ********* USA	Apr 24th, 2012 06:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic How useful is the compressor? One of my beefs on the CD is that the compressor has only 3 settings, and none of them are subtle.
telegib Canada	Apr 25th, 2012 03:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic If find the compressor very effective on the MIII. You have a simple compressor with one knob or a full funtion compressor with threshold, ratio, etc.
6 Cylinder Slim New England Shoes for Industry	Apr 25th, 2012 05:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic +1 on the MIII being a gig worthy amp. I did use mine once and there was no shortage of power. The band leader uses a Mustang I for rehearsals. It works fine for that, but if you're considering a Mustang amp, it is worth noting that the MIII is still small, light and easy to use as a rehearsal amp while having a lot more low end punch and enough power for live shows.
StratQuebec Canada Patient people get what they want.	Apr 25th, 2012 10:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Sorry to be a bit off topic guys... Hi QJ! You know you can tweak the Cyber-Deluxe compressor using your Mac. Check the Cyber-Deluxe Online Ressource for that matter! BTW, I am once again a tube snob (worst, a Marshall one!!!) but I still maintain my good old Cyber-Deluxe Online Ressource that I'm so proud of ! Cyber-Deluxe Online Ressource
Quackerjack Contributing Member ********* USA	Apr 25th, 2012 10:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Hi there Rene...good to see you ;-). I was going to drop you an email, but since you found the thread I was wondering what your thoughts were about the CD vs M3? My initial impression was that Fender made some big advances in the touch-sensitivity of the models vs the Cyber series, but also did a much more realistic job of replicating the classics like the Deluxe and the Champ...would you agree? P.S....I'll forgive you for going Marshall on us ;-)
Countrydon Contributing Member ********** Corn & Beansville Slick Willy Rocks!	Apr 25th, 2012 03:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Dan, the compressor is better on the m3. The cyber has more bottom imo. The dirty sounds are better on the m3 but the cyber still does jimi in the studio better.i liked the closed back of the m2 over the m3 but got the 3 for the extra power.. i missed my expander so much that i built an attenuater to go between the m3 s send to whatever i run with it. All in all i like the m3 in gig situation but my old cyber,s not going anywhere for now...
StratQuebec Canada Patient people get what they want.	Apr 25th, 2012 04:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Dan, I think what Don (BTW Hi! Don. Nice to meet you again!) said is important since he gigs with the Mustangs & the Cyber so he' s in better place than compare the two. It's since a long time I didn't played the Cyber-Deluxe so all I will say is based from memories. But here's my opinion: But before: Marshall, Vox, Fender and Peavey tubes amps and the Mustang I, Vox AD30VT and desktop vox tonelab modelers, they all fill my music room now. These days I play mostly the Marshall (Haze 15 w head w/ the 1X12 bottom) but still use my other amps and modellers at times and enjoy them all very much. Back to the CD vs M III I can't talk about the II or III. Just about the I in a home recording situation. I'll have to be very honest here about the Cyber-Deluxe. I must admit that the Mustang is decades if not centuries ahead the Cyber-Deluxe in terms of modelling technologies. The CD now is 12 years old so nothing to be really surprised of, otoh. I remember that the effects and the reverb on the CD were absolutely marvellous. I found the effects on the Mustang I to be ok but not outstanding at all, even the reverb and the compressor are just ok to me. But hey, for the price, man, one cannot complain. The mustang offers, I would say 80% of the warmth and the sensitivity of a real tube amp and the models are surprisingly realistic. I had the fizz syndrome mine but a firmware update fixed it, not 100% fixed but it's absolutely useable now. Souds great miked, sterile and lifeless direct, via the usb, to my liking anyway. If I was gigging, I would seriously consider using the III and I'd get two of them, to have a perfect clone as a backup. Go for the III without hesitations. Even the speaker seems damn good! Enjoy it to the last drop! And btw, get an ABY switcher and run your DRRI and MIII together ! A dirty Marshall preset on the III matched with the DRRI cleans and voilà! This is heaven! Rene (This message was last edited by StratQuebec at 04:43 PM, Apr 25th, 2012)

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