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FDP Forum / Fender Amps: 1985 - Current / Tried the Mustang III today
(This message was last edited by Quackerjack at 01:05 PM, May 2nd, 2012)
(This message was last edited by telegib at 07:06 PM, May 3rd, 2012)
FDP Forum / Fender Amps: 1985 - Current / Tried the Mustang III today
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Quackerjack
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USAMay 2nd, 2012 11:34 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Ok...I got it. I'm stunned.
First thing I did was an A/B with my DRRI using the basic Deluxe reverb model. It is *very* close to nailing it. Lacks a little bit of the depth and feel, but not much. Has more clean headroom, and a gain control ;-p.
Vs. the CD...I agree with both Countrydon and telegib. It lacks some of the CDs bottom, but makes up for it with better definition. It has better feel and touch-sensitivity...cleans up with the volume knob in a much more realistic way. Effects are every but as good as the CD, and in some cases better. Certainly easier to adjust via Fuse.
Overall first impression... very good value, and a lot of fun! I am ordering the 4 button and will bring this to Clamfest in 2 weeks to see how it will hang outdoors with a full band. I dimed it and compared it to the CD - as far as volume is concerned it is as loud as the CD, and I've gigged that amp quite a bit with no troubles. Only dislikes are the top mounted controls, the lack of expander, and the lower quality of the jacks, but hey... it was only 299!
reverendrob
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you have done so well...May 2nd, 2012 12:58 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Glad you're happy.
Chances are you can dial in closer to your actual DR with some internal Fuse tweaking as well.
Every time I hear a friend's I'm amazed at the thing, especially at the price point.
If I didn't like my HRD as an amp and a nice looking household accessory (as well as just use it for clean and preamp versus poweramp OD), I'd trade it in a heartbeat for a Mustang.
telegib
CanadaMay 2nd, 2012 02:15 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Glad you are happy with the MIII Quackerjack.
As for the Deluxe patch it you can select different cabs or no cab you can change the tonal punch of that patch or any other for that matter. I love it as it is personally with my EQ settings.
I am a tube snob but I am totally impressed with this amp. In some cases I actually prefer the Deluxe patch of the MIII over my 65 Deluxe Reissue. I prefer the mids and extra chime on the MIII. I may be able to drastically improve my Deluxe Reissue with new tubes, biasing or whatever but look at what you get on the MIII for 299.00. Amazing value on an extremely usable not to mention gigging amp.
Trust me you will have no problem gigging with the MIII. Like I said though get the 4 button switch. Once you use it you won't gig without it.
Quackerjack
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USAMay 2nd, 2012 04:45 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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4 button will be here on Friday thanks for FDP sponsor Sweetwater. In the meantime I'll start laying out my basic patches using Fuse.
This is my first modeler, and I'm impressed in that it keeps the tone and character of my guitar intact. I never considered the CD a modeler given the way it rewires itself for each amp it emulates. Side by side, the M3 beats the CD consistently except on the features we've already covered and the fact that the CD is built like a tank...the M3 is not as robust, but again for 299 I'm not complaining.
StratQuebec
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Patient people get what they want.May 2nd, 2012 06:43 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Congrads Quackerjack ! I knew you where to like it ! Cheers!
fredocaster
USAMay 2nd, 2012 07:16 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Congrats on the MIII. Never thought I would go for one these, but I'm hooked. I think you will like it.
Quackerjack
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USAMay 2nd, 2012 07:24 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Thanks...glad I listened to all and took the plunge. I haven't found anything it can't do yet, but my fingers are tired and I need some rest!
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Oceanside, CAMay 3rd, 2012 10:05 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I find the Mustang III just to be okay but nothing great. I do own one and have done a lot of tweaking to get it to sound good. I do play through it a lot at home and for an SS amp it does sound good. Then I'll plug into one of my tube amps and realize how much better they sound and respond, but that's just me. For the price it's hard to beat but for me it just won't replace tubes.
Quackerjack
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USAMay 3rd, 2012 12:51 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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My DRRI isn't going anywhere...I'm just marveling at how far the technology has come. I've played tube amps for 30 years now, and while I love the tone and feel, there is something to be said for a package that gets you close to all the Fender classics for only 299 ...a perfect grab and go rig for jams and small gigs. I also enjoy tweaking and tinkering, and the Fuse software could keep me busy for a long time!
hofner_man
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Vintage Guitar PlayerMay 3rd, 2012 01:31 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I have an interesting history with the Mustang amps. I bought a M-1 about a year ago. I was very impressed with it as a practice amp. No problems at all. Last week I sold it to a co-worker who needed a practice amp. I went out a couple of days later and purchased a M-II. I took it home and started playing. The speaker sounded like crap. I expected the larger speaker to have a fuller sound, but this just sounded bad. I took it back the next day and traded up to the M-III. It sounds great. It sounds like I hoped the M-II would. I think the better speaker and open back in the M-III improve the sound tremendously. This has replaced my Kustom Coupe 36 (thanks Craig's List). I'm looking forward to more tweeking.
HM
telegib
CanadaMay 3rd, 2012 03:05 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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The technology is just getting better and better with these amps. Fender waited awhile before putting these amps out but it was definately worth the wait.
And as I said I am a tube snob. But I don't play this amp because it sounds decent or because it is cheap. It has great tones not just tone. It has lots of them. Will it last. I can't answer that one. But I am sure enjoying the ride with this amp!
I let my ears and hands be the judge. I may not have the best tube amps around but they are darn good. And none of them can can make the MIII sound bad. None of them.
Quackerjack
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USAMay 3rd, 2012 03:49 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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As a long time CyberDeluxe owner, it has come a long way. I've also always had tube amps around. I appreciate each for what it does, but I can see a day - if Fender so chooses - where these modelers are every bit as good as tube amps. The differences are becoming less and less, and the "feel" gets closer with each generation. It will be interesting to see if they continue on this path of development...
In the meantime, I'll enjoy the tones I'm getting out of the M3.
telegib
CanadaMay 3rd, 2012 07:05 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I love the effects on the MIII too.
fredocaster
USAMay 3rd, 2012 09:11 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Look, I agree with Champster. The mustang III does not sound as good as my tube amps. But it's not so far off, and you get a fairly light box full of the sounds of great amps. And these tones are very good. I agree with others here that this technology will only get better.
And telegib has it right - no way the Mustang sounds bad next to the amps it is simulating.
And another thing - no messy pedals and pedal boards on the floor. No batteries, power supplies, Velcro, extra cables, etc.
stinger22
USAMay 4th, 2012 07:17 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Every time I go into my music room to play it's a tough choice........DRRI or M3! I am really liking having the EXP-1 pedal controlling the gain setting on my Bassman and Supersonic patches. Set it to range from 40% to 80% and can get lots of tones just riding the pedal. BTW did the temp fix to get it to calibrate correctly until they have a permanent fix for it.
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Axe VictimMay 4th, 2012 07:24 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Does the MIII sound better than the G-DEC 3 Thirty?
I use the G-DEC for home practice and Fender tube amps for live work.
Quackerjack
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USAMay 4th, 2012 08:22 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Haven't compared, but the M3 has the same Celestion as the the CyberDeluxe - I don't think the GDEC has a Celestion.
telegib
CanadaMay 4th, 2012 09:21 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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"Does the MIII sound better than the G-DEC 3 Thirty?"
Yes. The MIII's 12" Celestion vs G-Dec 10" speaker plus smaller cabinet size of the G-Dec.
But tone is subjective for everyone. Try the MIII and be the judge yourself would be the best bet.
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If it's got 12 bars count me inMay 4th, 2012 03:36 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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"Does the MIII sound better than the G-DEC 3 Thirty?"
I had both alongside for a few months but eventually sold the 3-30. There is a huge difference - the 3-30 sounded like a practice amp at rehearsals while the MIII sounds great even at gigs.
Quackerjack
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USAMay 4th, 2012 03:49 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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The GDEC and M3 share programming and electronics, but im guessing the addition of a Celestion makes a huge difference...the voicing and capabilities of the speaker lends itself to rehearsal and gigging use.
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