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FDP Forum / Fender Amps: 1985 - Current / Tried the Mustang III today
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FDP Forum / Fender Amps: 1985 - Current / Tried the Mustang III today
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Winter
CaliforniaJun 24th, 2012 09:11 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Interesting amp, ok
7 Amp models, I suppose you can only use one at a time.
7 Stomp effects, still one at a time?
37 effects,
Question – how many Mod effects can you use at the same time? Like Chorus and Tremelo at the same time?
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Ride, shoot straight, speak the truthJun 24th, 2012 09:36 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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All you guys digging and using the M3 live, are you talking about the combo or the head X 212 or 412 cab? I want to try one of these out, but I can envision a big difference between those configurations. I've been disappointed with modeling amps in a live situation so far and want to give this a fair chance. My beef with modelers so far is lack of presence and timing, compressed squished dynics, and ms lag between the pick and tone as the computer chips thinks about what I just plucked, comes to a decision, and puts it out. Great for low volume but not dynamic enough playing live.
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Cheapshoes - I used the M3 with the 12 inch speaker at a jam with two drummers, and it did well. This is the first modeler I've played that doesn't have the lag problem at all, and does not sound overly compressed.
Winter - you can only use 1 each of the Stomp, Mod, Delay and reverb, although you have lots of options to choose from, including where to place them (pre or post gain). With the 4 button pedal, you can control them (on and off) without having to change patches, and as I said...no lag - it feels just like using a standard pedal.
telegib
CanadaJun 24th, 2012 09:57 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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"37 effects,
Question – how many Mod effects can you use at the same time? Like Chorus and Tremelo at the same time?"
No. It is a very simple amp in that regard. I never even bought the amp for its effects but they are so good that I bought the 4 button switch and have been using the amp as my pedalboard effects. I don't use anything but one effect at at time anyway so not having multiple effect options doesn't bother me. I have that with my Boss GT-8 and GT-10 if I need them.
telegib
CanadaJun 24th, 2012 10:00 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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CheapShoes. I concur with Quackerjack. The MIII is a great amp. Live, studio, practice, whatever.
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"... lack of presence and timing, compressed squished ..." Funny, I was just playing my Mustang Mini this morning, and was exspecially enjoying going back and forth between playing light, and really digging in, and enjoying the way the amp responds ... as with changes in the guitar (this morning, the Squier Classic Vibe Tele) and pickup selections, the amp's beautifully responsive to changes, and the tone changes accordingly. Pick a setting with a bit more gain, and then enjoy a surprising palette of nice sounds just by changing your playing and guitar controls. (I've also got the III; it's my primary amp, but the Mini's got the same tone engine, and is just so danged handy!)
As for combo vs. head/cab, no, everyone on this thread's talking about the combo ... the III is a combo only, while the V is the head/cab configuration (see Telegib's posts - he's got both).
Jeffty
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Gain is my co-pilot...Jul 4th, 2012 12:08 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Quackerjack - I also have a CyberDeluxe, got it in 2002 and have loved it for a long time. However I got a Mustang II when they first appeared and I have to admit that it really feels like a step up in modeling and EFX technology but it's just not beefy enough for full-band gigs. Most of my gigs these days are not all that loud however.
I rarely use the CD anymore and my CTSE is just a dust collector these days - just too much amp for my gigs. I've been considering letting go of the CD and picking up a MIII; You've walked a mile in my shoes, what do you think?
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The difference between the M2 and M3 is huge. M3 is definitely giggable, and a bit lighter than the CD...and it has the same 12inch Celestion. I've had the M3 and CD side by side, and the M3 wins hands down. The Fender models are more accurate and sensitive, and they hold up well at gig volume. The only thing the CD has over the M3 is a more rugged build, and additional outputs/stereo expander which I really like.
Since you have a CTSE as well, I would swap the CD for an M3. You still have something more robust if necessary. Once you have the M3, the M2 will start collecting dust as well ;-)
NickL
PennsylvaniaJul 4th, 2012 02:17 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I've owned my M3 for a couple months now and love the tones so much I'm thinking of getting the M4 for the 2 12" speakers. Don't bother comparing this amp to a tube amp..just ask yourself if the amp sounds good...in fact great. It does. I've owned tube amps and other modeling amps in the past and the M3 is by far the best.
telegib
CanadaJul 4th, 2012 05:48 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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"Don't bother comparing this amp to a tube amp..just ask yourself if the amp sounds good...in fact great. It does"
You have the right attitude. The MIII is a great sounding amp. period. It can sound real warm and dynamics are excellent.
I am very happy that someone finally came up with a great recipe for tone without me having to lug around my tube amps. I use my tube amps at concerts where there is a soft seat audience that pays to watch and listen and not a bar gig (that I do enjoy) but where there is a risk of someone spilling water or beer into you tube amp.
But if the truth be known I have even used my MIII instead of a tube amp at such a concert and got some of the best tones ever.
I've owned this amp for a year now and the honeymoon still isn't over. I can't say that for a lot of amps I have owned.
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"I've owned this amp for a year now and the honeymoon still isn't over. I can't say that for a lot of amps I have owned.
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High praise.
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I use a Cube 60 and a Peavey Transtube Bandit for years at gigs.
I see myself with an M3 in the next few weeks.
I love pissing off the Tube guys. ;-)
Quackerjack
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USAJul 6th, 2012 05:23 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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IPL - you will *love* this one...and it won't break the bank either ;-)
telegib
CanadaJul 7th, 2012 02:16 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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"I love pissing off the Tube guys. ;-)"
Not me because I own tube amps and love the MIII. If people want to hate or criticize the MIII because it is not a tube amp or refuse to try it because they have tried other digital amps or processors that is their choice.
But those of us who own a MIII, MIV or MV and have spent a little time finding their tone on these amps know better.
IPLAYLOUD
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Bought an MIII a few hours ago.
No time to learn anything on it now. I'll use my Peavey to gig tonight, run the Mustang through some paces tomorrow.
Had a Coupon, got the Amp and 4 sets of strings for under $300. Amazing how inexpensive it is for what it does.
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Pretty great coupon!
Quackerjack
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USAJul 7th, 2012 02:47 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Go straight to the basic amp models...all the classic Fender tones sound better without all the extra effects.
NickL
PennsylvaniaJul 7th, 2012 07:50 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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"But hey, for the price, man, one cannot complain. The mustang
offers, I would say 80% of the warmth and the sensitivity of a real tube amp and the models are surprisingly realistic. I had the fizz syndrome mine but a firmware update fixed it, not 100% fixed but it's absolutely useable now."
But compare the M3 to any of the Line 6 Spiders, Peavey Vypyrs, and Vox Valvetronix amps, and the M3 (forget even the price) blows them all away in my opinion. I had a Spider IV 120 and had the Vox AD60VTX, AD50VT and VT50 and they were missing something. The M3 in my opinion, has better tones, better warmth, and better feel than other digital modelers. The Line 6 amp models just weren't to my liking, and although the Vox amps sounded good, they sometimes lacked the warmth of the Mustang and felt a bit "stiff" to me. I took the leap and ordered a Mustang IV today I like the 3 so much.
telegib
CanadaJul 7th, 2012 08:32 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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IPLAYLOUD
Congrats! As Quackerjack said go to the basic amp models and get an idea of how some of these amp models sound. Once you strat tinkering around you will be impressed. And when you set it up and start gigging with it you will be even more impressed.
Hope you have a great gig tonight.
J.LaGrassa
TaxachusettsJul 9th, 2012 04:15 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I just got a Mustang IV, what a great sounding amp... I like it so much I sold my Blues Junior III and all my pedals! Tubes... I dont need no stinkin tubes!
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