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SoK66 Contributing Member **** USA We had the hit but Van got the money	Apr 29th, 2012 07:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic The Clark clone is about as good as a clone gets. The Fender '57 is not to be dismissed, either. Pretty sure they're out of production now, replaced by the Clapton signature tweed Tremolux. Not really a reissue. One of the best amps I've ver heard was a '59 Deluxe I scored for $75 in 1970. Looked like it had just come out of its shipping box. One of those "shouda 'kep it" pieces I can never replace.
BrentD Contributing Member **** Lansing, MI	Apr 30th, 2012 06:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic I'm going to give them a call this morning about the amp. What are your volume experiences with these? The max volume I've really run my CVR at is 5.5 or 6 (which isn't all that much louder than 4 or so, just dirtier). If volume is a serious issue, I don't mind the looks of the Bassman. :-D It's hard to gauge in the store because the acoustics are so different from room to room.
BrentD Contributing Member **** Lansing, MI	Apr 30th, 2012 07:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Hold was removed. New one added. :D I have some time today to go in so I'll give it a go against the Bassman. I have a feeling I know which one is going to win.
cisco Contributing Member **** Tucson, Arizona USA Bottom Sucker	Apr 30th, 2012 09:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Great! Remember the 57 Deluxe is not made anymore. You can always buy a Bassman later.
BrentD Contributing Member **** Lansing, MI	Apr 30th, 2012 10:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic New amp day! Weird - the amp has a GT, Fender-labeled 12AT7 in V1, which might be a compromise between the 12AY7 and the 12AX7. Did Fender ever do this from the factory? I thought it was always a 12AX7 on the RIs. Also, the label inside is peeling off a bit. Not a big worry, but what kind of adhesive do they use on these? This amp I believe will make a lot of room because there are several things going out the door for it. I want the net cost at $0. (This message was last edited by BrentD at 10:44 AM, Apr 30th, 2012)
cisco Contributing Member **** Tucson, Arizona USA Bottom Sucker	Apr 30th, 2012 12:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic No, Fender used 12AX7 in V1. The label can be re-glued using rubber cement.
gdw3 Contributing Member ** LA-la-land, CA Insert clever comment here	Apr 30th, 2012 12:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic "Remember the 57 Deluxe is not made anymore." ???? '57 Deluxe at MFriend
BrentD Contributing Member **** Lansing, MI	Apr 30th, 2012 01:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic gdw3, it's not on Fender's website so I'd bet those are NOS. Thanks for the tips on the tubes and glue. If both AXs and AYs are safe, I assume the AT is fine. Anyone have any opinions about leaving it in there?
cisco Contributing Member **** Tucson, Arizona USA Bottom Sucker	Apr 30th, 2012 01:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic The MF amps are left over stock.
johnny1111 Contributing Member ***** White Bear Lake, MN Keep a coolin' baby	Apr 30th, 2012 02:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic I don't get it. Everyone on this board is saying that the Deluxe reissue is a real winner. At the price, Fender should have been making some money on it. Why discontinue the amp? It can't be that the amp was priced to high to sell. Look at what Fender is asking for the Eric Clapton Tremolux. What is the deal? Lately Fender has been introducing a fair amount of geat that seems to get discontinued fairly quickly.
BrentD Contributing Member **** Lansing, MI	Apr 30th, 2012 02:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic It probably hit the chopping block to make way for the whole line of EC amps. Fender seems to have made a short run of Champs, Deluxes, and Twins. Because anything with EC's name or initials attached seems to sell well, maybe they made a decision to revamp the whole line. It's all speculation for me, though.
SKI Contributing Member ******** Maine	Apr 30th, 2012 03:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Fender may have discontinued the 5E3 because there are plenty of clones that can be had for less. While I have a Clark and think it's among the best clones out there, I've heard other less expensive clones that come very, very close.
wnstardis Contributing Member ******* Chicago, IL USA Bill~~~	Apr 30th, 2012 03:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Congrats Brent! Now fire that puppy up and enjoy, mine lasted 50 odd years, so I'm sure you'll get your money's worth. Between Ski and Brent's theories there's enough motivation for Fender to discontinue them, but as you say only they know for sure why.
cisco Contributing Member **** Tucson, Arizona USA Bottom Sucker	Apr 30th, 2012 03:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic The new EC version of the 57 lineup have more features and are priced exactly the same as the plain line of 57 amps. I can see why they discontinued the old line.
SpiroGiro YorkshireUK	May 1st, 2012 04:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Although highly revered, the classic Tweed amps are rather specialist. Apart from the Twin and Bassman, maybe even less flexible live. However, although 5e3 clones can be had from several sources none are cheap mind you. The Twin clones/kits are less plentiful and other notable comparable-spec makes such as Cornell and Victoria are in same price park as Fender. To me, there is something rather cynical about the EC lineup that would deter me - I do not like 3rd party endorsements emblazoned all over my gear either! I like the classic look and vibe.
BrentD Contributing Member **** Lansing, MI	May 1st, 2012 04:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic A little bit of reading said the 12AT was a bad pick for V1, so I picked up a 12AY today. I thought the amp sounded good before! Didn't get much of a chance to crank it in the apartment, but will do so soon. I love this amp!
BrentD Contributing Member **** Lansing, MI	May 1st, 2012 04:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic ♪♫ Bye, bye stack. Bye bye, Vibrolux. Hello, tweed Deluxe. I think I am-a feelin' hi-igh. This box is so ali-ive. ♪♫
cisco Contributing Member **** Tucson, Arizona USA Bottom Sucker	May 1st, 2012 05:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic + 1
fredocaster USA	May 1st, 2012 07:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Cisco is right, these come from the factory with 12ax7's in v1. But I believe the original amps came with 12ay7's. Fender does recommend ay7's for a lower gain sound. I can't recall if the at7 has more or less gain than the ay7. Usually the at7 is used for the phase inverter. I tested several different tubes other than ax7's - ay7, at7, 5751. I was doing this because I wanted a little more control over the volume. I found the ax7 to be a little too aggressive for my taste. The ay7 was the cleanest, and gave the most (perceived) clean headroom. Next was the 5751, a great compromise between higher and lower gain. I really didn't like the tone of the at7 in v1. That all being said, the ax7 is perfectly fine, was just trying to lower the amp's overall "aggressiveness" a little. Anyway, congrats on your purchase. This is just a great little amp.
Peppy Tucson	May 31st, 2012 07:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic '57 Deluxe Some more tips here.....

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