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reverendrob
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May 12th, 2012 03:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That's neat, I love wierd recovered vehicles etc from WW1 and 2 that pop up from time to time.

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May 12th, 2012 07:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There was a missing B-24, the "Lady Be Good" but it was found many years ago. One of the props from the LBG was at the entrance to Wheeless AFB in Tripoli Lybia. I'm sure there were several planes that were missing. The Sahara is a big place and not many folks live in the mid and southern part of it.

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May 12th, 2012 07:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Reminds me of a movie/TZ or something called Sole Survivor. This story is loosely based on the discovery of the B-24 "Liberator" bomber the "Lady Be Good" that was found in the Libyan desert after the crew got lost on their 1st bombing mission to Italy.

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May 12th, 2012 07:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I saw this on TV. Very cool!

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May 12th, 2012 07:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Remember Flight 19, the lost in the Bermuda Triangle squadron? That was a well-known mystery when I was a boy, solved in 1991.

Flight 19

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May 13th, 2012 06:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for updating me on the "Lady Be Good". I didn't know they'd found her.

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May 13th, 2012 08:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There were other returning Liberator bombers based in Lybia who went missing: returning from a mission (hence fuel low), if they missed the coastal landing strip due to the blackouts they just rolled on South over the desert til they ran out of juice - sometimes not even realizing at night that they had even crossed the coast.

South of the coastal strip in North Africa is nothing but a whole lot of sand and rock. You crash there with 110 degree daytime heat and you're about as close to 100% gone as anywhere on earth. Likely wouldn't last a couple of days. And the USAF / RAF would probably assume you'd been shot down over Germany so wouldn't even come looking for any wreckage. Tragic beyond belief...

This kind of "disappearing into the wilderness" happens quite a bit in Australia too - same deal with a never-ending desert expanse.

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May 13th, 2012 05:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Remarkable. I wonder if the pilot's remains will ever be found?

Who made the Kittyhawk P-40, by the way?

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May 13th, 2012 05:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Flight 19 was interesting reading... thanks for posting that. The Bermuda Triangle has always interested me... I've been on the fringes as a boat captain, there's some weird stuff goes on down there... watching your compass spin in circles makes you do a double look.

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May 13th, 2012 07:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Who made the Kittyhawk P-40, by the way? "

Curtis-Wright, I think.

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May 14th, 2012 07:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Who made the Kittyhawk P-40, by the way...?"

Curtis built the airframes, Allison built their V-12 engines at a plant in Indianapolis.

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May 14th, 2012 09:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for the Flight 19 Link. I had no idea any evidence was ever found.

I wonder if the find was confirmed? (Looks like an internet search is a-coming.)

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May 14th, 2012 01:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The article on flight 19 is very old. The planes ended up not being from that flight.

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May 14th, 2012 05:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"The article on flight 19 is very old. The planes ended up not being from that flight."

The Wikipedia writeup agrees.

Thanks.

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May 14th, 2012 05:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Apparently, they were just another gaggle of five brave aircrews that never made it home. Wow, so sad.

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May 14th, 2012 06:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"The planes ended up not being from that flight."

Interesting. Thanks. I had never heard that. From the Wiki article:

"In 1991, the wreckage of five Avengers was discovered off the coast of Florida, but engine serial numbers revealed they were not Flight 19. They had crashed on five different days all within 1.5 mi (2.4 km) of each other. Records revealed that the various discovered aircraft, including the group of five, were declared either unfit for maintenance/repair or obsolete, and were simply disposed of at sea."

Wiki: Flight 19

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May 16th, 2012 07:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Flight 19 was discovered in 1991, but it wasn't in June, but in August of that year. Project 19, a group dedicated to locating the missing aircraft, was headed by Jon F. Myhre, aviation expert. He has spent 30 years searching for Flight 19, using unpublished Navy records, reports, weather charts, current charts, and some 50 sightings, plus exclusive interviews with the sole surviving airman of the flight, a surviving crew member of the search planes, and a Naval Review Board member. In Aug 1991, he located crash site #1 and pulled the aircraft from the sea floor. In 2007 he located crash site #3, and in 2009 crash site #2 -- these last two were on land. Crash sites #4 & #5 are in deep water. His book released May 1st of this year, Discovery of Flight 19. Douglas Westfall, Publisher, SpecialBooks.

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May 16th, 2012 01:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sounds like an interesting book. I'm going to guess Mr. Myhre decided not to interview the BBC's local expert on the subject.

YTC: BBC on Flight 19

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May 16th, 2012 01:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There was a survivor of flight 19?

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May 16th, 2012 02:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It means there was a survivor of a search & rescue plane crash.

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