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FDP Forum / The Chop Shop / train notes

anteriorl5

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May 14th, 2012 09:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Officially, what are the notes used by trains approaching an intersection? Junior Brown seems to hit them exactly. He did a show in Davenport a few years back and along came a train in mid-set. He answered that whistle back complete with pitch lowering as it went by. Very cool.

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May 14th, 2012 11:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't know if there's are "official" notes, but try starting with a flat-five interval. That is, a root note (say, D, played on the 3rd string, 7th fret) and the flatted fifth above it (in this case, A flat, 2nd string, 9th fret).

Not surprised that JB can do a train sound! Guessing he was probably using the lap-steel neck of his custom double-neck guitsteel, so that he could use the slide to lower the notes evenly.

anteriorl5

USA

May 14th, 2012 12:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yup, it was the guit-steel all right. He's an absolute monster; the most imaginative guitar player I've ever run across.
I googled train-whistle chords and came up with about 6 or 7 variations. Different loco manufacturers had different whistles; 6,5,4 and 3 note chords, so no standard to go by. Some were not tuned properly and notes were slightly sharp or flat.

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May 14th, 2012 04:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

To get the proper sound, one of the two (or more) notes have to be a little sharp or flat. Mr. Brown does this by rotating the bar a little and sliding slightly. That creates a close approximation of the Doppler effect you hear as a train approaches or departs at high speed while sounding the horn.

anteriorl5

USA

May 14th, 2012 10:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes, it was with the steel part of the guit-steel, and he was bending strings behind the bar to get the right notes. Got the right pitch and exact doppler effect as the train went on by, 100 yards away, feverishly working the volume knob. The crowd loved it.

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May 15th, 2012 05:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah, he hooks his ring finger on a string behind the bar and pulls it, creating pedal steel effects. He's right up there with Dave Lindley and Arlen Roth when it comes to lap steel tricks. These guys are WIZARDS. Makes me mad, because I can't do it =o)

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