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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Stratocasters / Issue with my new Clapton Blackie Strat.
(This message was last edited by jhawkr at 07:07 AM, Jun 3rd, 2012)
FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Stratocasters / Issue with my new Clapton Blackie Strat.
jhawkr
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Final Four!Jun 1st, 2012 08:28 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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The pick guard has warped in the two weeks I've had it. All along the upper edge between screws. When I press down next to the neck pickup, it moves about a 1/4 inch! I'm taking it in for my free setup at EM Shorts Saturday and I'll have them address the pick guard issue.
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USA/Taos, NMJun 1st, 2012 10:35 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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One of the reasons I don't like single-ply guards.
Power Trio
West VirginiaJun 1st, 2012 11:46 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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hmmm had mine since 89 and never had a prob with it
you can use some double sided tape to help keep it down
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Final Four!Jun 1st, 2012 11:53 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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EM Shorts will fix it. Why mess with it myself when a trained, experienced luthier at a Fender Authorized Repair dealer will do it for free? I have no doubt they'll make it right.
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Support local music!!!Jun 1st, 2012 02:04 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I replaced mine with a guard from WD. 3-ply white but with the same 8-hole screw pattern as the original. Looks better IMHO, and no warping.
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Final Four!Jun 1st, 2012 03:29 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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If it's going to be a problem, I may do that as well.
ecfan
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1-4-5Jun 1st, 2012 05:16 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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This is exactly why Leo went to 3 ply and 11 screws in 1959. The price of being "vintage"...
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is WRONG, baby.Jun 1st, 2012 07:47 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Those single-ply ABS and styrene guards are junk. People tolerate them because "that's what Buddy Holly had," and other whacked logic like that.
Some don't warp, but most do. The Jimmie Vaughan Strat comes with 'em on there. Junk!
myshka
CanadaJun 1st, 2012 11:17 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I often wondered ... when the original single ply 8 hole first came out, did Fender also have the full aluminum shield installed as well ?
Wouldn't gluing the shield to the pickguard strengthen it and prevent warping ?
ecfan
New Jersey USA
1-4-5Jun 2nd, 2012 06:28 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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myshka-
From Vintage Guitars Collector website:
"Celluloid "mint green" three layer (white/black/white) pickguard (sometimes called a "nitro" pickguard), with 11 attachment screws. This celluloid pickguard was implemented around 7/59. A thin aluminum shield the size of the pickguard is installed underneath the three layer pickguard. This replaces the thicker and much smaller shield previously used on single layer pickguards (this older style shield encompassed just the three pots and the switch)."
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Final Four!Jun 2nd, 2012 03:45 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I went to EM Shorts today for my setup. Perfect job as always! Also, found replacement acrylic 8 hole pickguards and also the aluminum shield! I'm thinking a parchment color pickguard for $27 and the aluminum shield for $15. Callaham Guitars.
Got the aluminum shield ordered and decided to glue the original pickguard to the aluminum shield. Also, found out that it's easier and cheaper to order Callaham parts from Acme Guitar Works. I'll probably use 3M Contact Cement to glue the pickguard to the shield. The shield is made from 6061-T6 Aluminum sheet, .014" thick. This is identical to the aluminum shields Leo used on some 50's Strats. The shields are drilled for old 8-hole and for newer 11-hole pickguards.
Walt Q.
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Careful, man, there's a beverage here!Jun 5th, 2012 08:48 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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"The Jimmie Vaughan Strat comes with 'em on there. Junk!"
One of the reasons I returned one I bought a couple of years ago. The guard was already warped, right out of the box.
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melons, you may be dyslexicJun 5th, 2012 02:35 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Mine (1999) did the same thing.
smurph1
USAJun 7th, 2012 09:09 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Mine on my 57 AVRI is warped but doesn't bother me..But I live in West Virginia..LOL
jillfen
cuyahoga falls, OHJun 29th, 2012 09:14 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I have a '92 MIK Fender Squier Series strat with a single ply pickguard. The pickguard on this strat is much thicker than those on EC strats. I've seen warped pickguards on EC strats hanging in music shops. I really don't understand why Fender doesn't address this obvious flaw. EC strats aren't cheap. Quality should be the norm.
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Final Four!Jun 30th, 2012 03:57 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I still haven't installed the shield on my EC Blackie yet. I decided to have a laser scan done so I can make copies with a CNC Waterjet. Our scanner just got back from repair & calibration and I'm on vacation all next week so it will be a couple weeks before I install it.
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"Surely not to live in pain and fear..."Jun 30th, 2012 06:15 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Interesting. The '83 hardtail I just got has 12 screws, like my '84 bowling-ball, with the additional one near the jack since it's in the spot where the second tone control traditionally was. They have single-ply pickguards. No warpage on the bowling-ball & I've had it since '89.
ecfan
New Jersey USA
I-IV-VJun 30th, 2012 07:58 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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The problem manifests itself mostly with thin pickguards that are secured by only 8 screws. This is precisely why Leo went to 3 ply guards and 11 screws in 1959. If you want strictly period correct, you get some of the problems that were present back then. Another inconvenience back in the day was the truss rod adjustment screw in the heel of the neck rather than at the headstock.
telegib
CanadaJun 30th, 2012 08:11 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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It made me want to check my Clapton Strat out. No problem with mine. Like the day I bought it.
I haven't played outdoors with it though which may pose a problem if the sun sun is beating down on it.
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