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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Stratocasters / Clapton Strat colours

spex

Scotland UK

Jun 13th, 2012 12:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Can anyone tell me when black became a standard colour for the Clapton Strat (normal ones not the CS model)? I am pretty sure when I bought mine in 1989 you could only get red, green and pewter. But I have seen people advertise EC Strats in black with the Blackie neck signature which are supposedly from 1989. Help me out here Fender people.

bmeredith
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USA

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Jun 13th, 2012 01:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Black was not offered in the original incarnation of the Clapton Strat, at Eric's request. The three original colors offered were Torino Red, Pewter, and Candy Green, in late '87 or early '88. Black was offered a couple of years later, with the "Blackie" decal on the headstock.

1989 would appear to be a little early for a Clapton Strat in Black, although it's not outside the realm of possibility. Mid 1990 is supposedly when they became available.

This information is available in the wonderful book entitled "The Dream Factory".

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Jun 13th, 2012 02:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think the original USA production model EC "Blackie" Strat with Lace Sensor pickups came out when the EC Strat first debuted.

I'm not sure of the date, but 1989 sounds about right.

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Jun 13th, 2012 02:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It appears that I am incorrect. (:oD

spex

Scotland UK

Jun 14th, 2012 03:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks guys. I saw this guitar advertised online and thought there was something not quite right. I hate it when you spot something like that. My instinct is always to challenge the seller or warn off prospective buyers.

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Jun 14th, 2012 07:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

How is it dated? Is there a stamp or heel marking, or are they using the serial number? Sometimes serial numbers spill over into the next year or have other funny quirks.

Power Trio

West Virginia

Jun 14th, 2012 10:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

i bought mine new in 89 and shes a Blackie

John C.

Kansas City

Jun 14th, 2012 01:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Don't forget that Fender used serial number decalse that started with "SE9" on the signatures for several years - even the first SRV Strats, which came out in 1992, had "SE9xxxxxx" serial numbers. Fender uses the numbers up before they reorder. It wasn't until a bit later in the 1990s that the serial number codes "caught up" with the year.

I don't remember when the black ones with the "Blackie" decal came out - I do remember that they weren't available in 1988.

spex

Scotland UK

Jun 15th, 2012 02:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That's interesting Power Trio. Did you buy it from an authorised dealer, or was it a Chinese bloke who had one in the back of his shop? Seriously though, are you sure it was 1989? Like I said, I bought mine new the same year from a Fender dealer in the UK and they had to order it from Fender UK. They only came in green, pewter and red. No other colours were available. I have also seen Fender brochures from that time which also state that only those three colours were available.

ecfan

New Jersey USA

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Jun 15th, 2012 04:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Not to cause trouble, but this is from a VERY detailed Wikipedia article entitled "Eric Clapton Stratocaster":

"the final production version (which was initially offered in Torino Red, Candy Green and Pewter, followed by Black in 1991 and Olympic White in 1994) and were Clapton's main instruments of choice for live and studio use from 1988 to 1993."



Power Trio

West Virginia

Jun 15th, 2012 10:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

purchased from Sam Ash 11-22-1989

EDIT Cost $979 with the case.

SE9 Decal and neck joint pencil mark 7/89

also chaulk mark inside cavity says some initial which i cant make out ans 89 next to it.

so maybe for exports it didnt get to you but we had them here.

as far as wikipedia anyone whos signed up with them can edit anything. so to me it dont hold any weight

(This message was last edited by Power Trio at 10:33 AM, Jun 15th, 2012)

bmeredith
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Jun 15th, 2012 01:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sounds like you got a very early "Blackie" Power Trio.

ecfan

New Jersey USA

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Jun 15th, 2012 03:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Power Trio-

Certainly sounds legit. Do you have the "Blackie" decal on the front of the headstock? Regardless, you've got a pretty rare bird. Cherish it.

(This message was last edited by ecfan at 04:33 PM, Jun 15th, 2012)

spex

Scotland UK

Jun 17th, 2012 05:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That is very interesting Power Trio. I wonder if those black EC Strats were a special order for Sam Ash or regular factory runs? The mystery deepens. The great thing and problem with Strats is that you can make them yourself once you have all the parts. In fact just ask Eric Clapton about this hobby. I am always suspicious when I see a 1989 Blackie Clapton Strat because of my own experience when buying mine, but it would appear there were SOME black EC Strats on the market then.

Power Trio

West Virginia

Jun 18th, 2012 10:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

yes has Blackie sticker on the head stock and the tremlo came blocked.

I remember i paid a $50 premium for "Blackie" as the so called other colors were going for $929 at the time

another Odd ball thing is the box was sealed when the sales guy opened it in from of me. when I got home to check it out all 5 springs were installed and the manilla evelope that springs should have been in wass tucked shut.

I heard they came with 3 springs installed and 2 in the bag.

also the tremlo arm spring was missing

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