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6L6 Contributing Member ********** *** Lago, CA	Jul 29th, 2012 08:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Good link, Peegoo! 6
5Strats Contributing Member ********** *** Edmond/OKC Wrong is the New Right	Jul 29th, 2012 08:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic There lots of great rock music out there. If you can't find any, you're not looking very hard. Jeez with the interwebs, finding new rock music is fairy easy. NOTE - Complaining about modern pop music is like complaining about the quality of food at McDonalds. WHAT THE HELL DID YOU EXPECT, CONSIDERING THE SOURCE? (:oD
waxcomb Detroit Rock Ave. bassist, The Blackburns	Jul 29th, 2012 08:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic With cheap gear, Internet lessons and older folks getting the time to finally do it, there are a huge number of bands being formed. We were one of the early dad bands in our area, getting lots of press because of it. Now, there are tons of them, all working for free in hopes of building a reputation.
reverendrob FDP Data Goon Moderator Hero, hero you have done so well...	Jul 29th, 2012 09:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Would you recognize the things that the kids are into, that resonate with them, that make them happy? This is a different world, what rocks for them is often far different than what rocks for the 60s or the 80s. There's a ton of killer bands out there, probably more than ever - but well, most of them won't pass geezer sensibilities. I've seen the reactions in Moe's when even the stuff that's approaching normal is posted.;0 It's like watching Ed Sullivan react to Jefferson Airplane after eating a pound of psychedelic mushrooms.
5Strats Contributing Member ********** *** Edmond/OKC Wrong is the New Right	Jul 29th, 2012 11:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic I may be of geezer age, but my tastes in music have evolved with the times. My ears aren't old. (:oD
FrenchFit Contributing Member NorCal, yo Watch Your Line	Jul 29th, 2012 11:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic I don't think it has much to do with the genre, or age. One of my favorite bands is a relatively unknown power pop group, they rock it for sure, and I've got 30 years on them. I guess I'm looking for a little passion, some love for the music and the beat. What I'm seeing is...white bread & blues posers. I guess I am looking in the wrong places.
6 Cylinder Slim New England Shoes for Industry	Jul 29th, 2012 03:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Think of it. The only way for a band to survive is to have someone able and willing take a financial loss. Someone has to provide a vehicle, sound system, lighting and rehearsal space. Someone needs to front the expenses of promotional material and have the time and energy to hustle up jobs. Notice how musical talent is absent from that list. If you have all of the above, you have a band. That's why there's so many bad bands. For money and talent to come together is pretty rare. Now maybe there are places left where you could get enough close by work to get a start up band started without personal investment up front, but no place I know of.
littleuch Contributing Member ********* Michigan	Jul 29th, 2012 03:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic The band I'm in is basically a "boys bowling night out" classic rock jam band. We also play some jump blues and such. Recently we were asked to play a country club gig to fit the theme an acquaintance was looking for at his wedding reception. Fun time, good time, but wow are those twenty something girls clueless on the dance floor if it ain't straight thumpin' downbeat.
Steve Dallman Contributing Member ***** Merrill, Wisconsin Ain't turned 60, but I got my blinker on	Jul 30th, 2012 08:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic I've been to a couple fairs or festivals. Lot's of 80's stuff, some very well played, but it's still 80's stuff. Perhaps that's the last decade actual songs were performed. From the 90's on, too much popular "music" is just overprocessed studio stuff, with that hammering "dumb...dumb...dumb..." nearly drowning the "music" out. I dare say, nothing from the 90's on will ever make it onto "oldies" stations. It's mostly throw away crap. Our band plays more obscure, but very dance-able stuff. We are well received by all ages, even though much of what we play is pre-Beatles era blues and R&B...and we're three old white geezers. We play well, mesh well together, and have a great time playing. Isn't that what makes music fun? We have a ball, the audiences have fun... I'm not getting old...I AM old. I loved a lot of stupid music in my younger days too.
5Strats Contributing Member ********** *** Edmond/OKC Wrong is the New Right	Jul 30th, 2012 08:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic "Perhaps that's the last decade actual songs were performed." You cannot be serious!
jbryan Minneapolis	Jul 30th, 2012 08:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Wow, such negativity! Yeah, I'm not a kid anymore but what about the following bands and their new music: Black Keys (one of my Favs) Neon Trees Train (been around a while by Drive By is an awesome song) Howler Dawes You can't put these songs side by side with songs from the 60's to the 80's. But they are good bands with good material, the Black Keys especially have a real "retro feel" to their music. I love Neon Trees brand new song "Everybody Talks"... You have to keep your ears young! I am sick of classic rock bands and 80's bands. yeah, our band has to play some classic rock as that keeps us working but we also spend about 50% of our setlist with mid-90's to current for mental health reasons! And so what if some of it is electronically processed? I play keys as a main instrument and yeah, that's a computer with black and whites on it! It's taking that new technology and applying it musically and making something with it that counts. Trying to say that nothing electronic can be good is silly. That's like all those old people who got upset when Bob Dylan played an "OMG Electric Guitar". The question that needs to be asked is "do you want to remain relevant" or become someone who has shut down and claims there hasn't been any good music since 1985? And this goes for non-musicians too. I get so annoyed with friends and acquaintances that are "stuck in the 70's and 80's".
urby Contributing Member ******** Warshington State	Jul 30th, 2012 10:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic There are good new bands out there. You are just not going to hear them on mainstream radio. Find a good college station or maybe an internet radio station. Here's one
6 Cylinder Slim New England Shoes for Industry	Jul 30th, 2012 02:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic I don't think a playlist makes you relevant or stuck. You either entertain people or you don't. Nothing wrong with making use of current (or old time) airplay and covering songs you think the people will already know and like, but I wouldn't elevate that approach to making a act relevant. To me, if you want the status of being relevant, you must either bring massive talent to established tunes like Ella Fitzgerald or break new ground with original material.
Lesterstrat Moderator Florida	Jul 31st, 2012 09:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic "I dare say, nothing from the 90's on will ever make it onto "oldies" stations. It's mostly throw away crap." Ummm, they're already played on oldies stations. Hell, it has its own channel on Sirrius. And Pearl Jam, like Elvis, Springsteen, etc... has their own dedicated channel. And, '80s rock SUCKS. It is the absolute worst decade in rock history. It's one thing to wear make up and costumes such as KISS and Alice Cooper for theatrical purposes, but having every band for an entire decade cross dressing from men to fem boys? No thanks! There are some good bands out there. You just have to know where to look. Some even get radio play. I happen to like Kings of Leon and The Killers, for example.
Steve Dallman Contributing Member ***** Merrill, Wisconsin Ain't turned 60, but I got my blinker on	Jul 31st, 2012 05:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Rock isn't dead...it just smells that way.
Standard24 San Antonio, Texas	Aug 2nd, 2012 10:05 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic The Pat Travers Band and Rik Emmit (Triumph), rock pretty well. ....Oh, you're talking about "new" bands, right?
6 Cylinder Slim New England Shoes for Industry	Aug 2nd, 2012 01:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic Oh yes, I remember the 80s. The agents all had catalogs full of pictures of of bands, all alike, with huge hair, spandex pants and scowls on their faces like somebody just insulted their mother. They were VERY serious about their eye makup and power chords! If you weren't just like them, you were out of it. Not hip and stuck. Fortunately, the bar scene was very lively and their was plenty of work for alternative styles, but the top 40 cover bands were usually as boring as they were goofy looking. (This message was last edited by 6 Cylinder Slim at 01:05 PM, Aug 2nd, 2012)
urby Contributing Member ******** Warshington State	Aug 3rd, 2012 01:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic "but the top 40 cover bands were usually as boring as they were goofy looking." Yup. I remember those guys.
kart24 Contributing Member ****** Vacaville CA Runs with scissors !!	Aug 3rd, 2012 09:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic I think "The Rubinoos" said it best back in the seventies. Rock n' Roll is Dead!
gdw3 LA-la-land, CA Insert clever comment here	Aug 3rd, 2012 11:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic There is a ton of good music out there. There is also a ton of crap out there. Easy access to cheap instruments and recording have made it so anybody can try to make music -- so they do. One needs to sift thru the chaff to find the gold (mixed metaphor, anyone?) more than ever these days. But it is there. Also, I look at the crappy bands out there, and see a reflection of (some of) the bands I listened to once, when I didn't know any better. I don't think my tastes have changed, just become better informed. Kids do not have your evolved frame of reference, and so like what they understand. They will (hopefully) evolve as well. Plus, just as in any form of art, once a technique or point of view breaks new ground, it is no longer ground-breaking after that. So, you may not feel the thrill of hearing a band that plays a style that once thrilled you. Been there, done that. Hey, I played an old record (yes, record) today of a group from the late '80's that used to thrill me. I got the chills all over again. But I wouldn't be as excited if I heard a new band doing the same thing.

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