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FDP Forum / The 'Pup' Tent / Strat pickup design, ceramic MIM vs others, Am Std, Duncans, etc.

DuffB2

USA

Oct 6th, 2015 09:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just got a new black MIM standard strat with hot ceramic pickups.

I'm wondering how the different type strat pickups are designed and I'm hoping some of you knowledgeable guys will fill me in.

For instance, do the hot ceramics just have steel pole pieces that are located between two bar magnets? Do some of the other strat pickups like the Am Std's have actual pole pieces that are actually magnets themselves? How about the Duncan ones, bar magnets or magnetized pole pieces alone?

Feedback appreciated.

DuffB2

USA

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Oct 6th, 2015 09:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Is the participation dropping off on this forum?

It looks like there are not many posts each day like some of the other forums. Maybe that's a good thing.

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Oct 6th, 2015 10:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You waited for 4 minutes and then asked about participation dropping off???

This is a real helpful place, but I don't think the Bat Signal goes up every time a question is posted.

Unfortunately, I don't have an answer for you about pickup designs, but someone more knowledgeable may stop by.

Just give it a little time.... ;^)

JohnS

USA

Oct 6th, 2015 06:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here you go:

For instance, do the hot ceramics just have steel pole pieces that are located between two bar magnets? YES

Do some of the other strat pickups like the Am Std's have actual pole pieces that are actually magnets themselves? YES

How about the Duncan ones, bar magnets or magnetized pole pieces alone? I believe all Duncans are Alnico magnetic pole pieces.


DuffB2

USA

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Oct 12th, 2015 04:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I bought a new 2015 MIM standard strat and I like the stock hot ceramic pickups.

I do, however, have a set of Custom Shop Fat '50s on hand that I could install in the new guitar.

Would it be a good idea, in general, aside from personal preference, to install the Custom Shop Fat '50s into the new guitar?

I don't know what they would sound like in the MIM Standard. Maybe the stock pickups are the best choice for that particular model. They sound very good; clear and bright with plenty of drive with the decent tube amps that I have, no pedals used.

Although I'm interested in hearing personal opinions on the subject, I am not in a hurry to swap out the pickups that I actually like.

Personal opinions appreciated. The final choice, needless to say, is mine and I can do the swap at any time, if desired. Just interested in some personal opinions. A lot can obviously be learned from the opinions of others.

I had been wondering for some time now if participation had been waning on the forum. Sorry for confusing you with the quick follow up question; I probably should have stayed away from the subject. No debates requested. Useful personal feedback appreciated, based on experience. Thanks.

(This message was last edited by DuffB2 at 06:25 PM, Oct 12th, 2015)

JohnS

USA

Oct 12th, 2015 06:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You Tube is your friend. Listen to the demos of the pickups you are considering.

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Oct 12th, 2015 11:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Having an extra pickguard is always a helpful thing. Just install the Fat 50s into a pickguard with the appropriate switch, pots, capacitors, etc., and swap the whole pickguard in and out whenever the mood strikes you. Much easier to compare with a modular replacement like that. Very flexible.

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Oct 13th, 2015 06:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I probably should have stayed away from the subject."

No worries - I just thought you were being impatient in getting a response to your question.
It happens.
FWIW, traffic probably is down compared to a few years ago. But I think that's true across all the guitar-related forums I frequent.

Back on topic - stratcowboy's suggestion of loading a new pickguard is good. A definite advantage of the Strat design. I've done it, myself.

As far what will sound good in a given guitar, there really is only one way to know that - you have to try it out.
I've been through 4 or 5 different pickup configurations in my JV Strat - different single coils, blades, P90's....
It's now loaded with the stock pickups. I always liked them, just wanted to see what else I could get out of it.
Lately, I've been toying with the idea of dropping a pair of Guitarfetish "Surf 90" pickups into it. That may or may not ever happen, but I figure it's good to have plans. (;^D)


hpete

USA

Feb 7th, 2017 06:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Somewhat related to this thread is it possible to replace the ceramic bars with alnico or with 1 alnico bar glued to the ends of the steel pole pieces?

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Feb 7th, 2017 07:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

First of all, congrats on the new Strat. I think black is the coolest color for Standards. Second, if you like the stock pups, I'd keep them in and enjoy them--at least for a while. Get to know them--you can always switch later. By then you'll know better what you want, and what you'd be missing either way.

There's nothing specifically about the stock pups that make them best for that guitar. But they could be the perfect ones for you. Basically, the main reason you may want to switch to the Fat 50's would be if you play a lot with clean, low gain amp settings--or just want a very 'vintage,' glassy tone. The stock MIM ceramics are very versatile Strat pups, but tend to have a thicker, more midrange tone (good for rock and mid/high gain) and less of the glassy high end. They are also a bit louder than the Fat 50's will be.

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