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FDP Forum / Guild/DeArmond/Tacoma Guitars / Starfire iv vs ES-335 --? how to compare

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Feb 20th, 2016 02:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There seems to be a new generation of Starfires available now -- made in Korea -- anyone have any experience with them?

The Starfire iv is priced at around half a Gibson ES-335.


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Feb 20th, 2016 02:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The MIK Guilds are very well made. Both are semi-solid (hollow body with center block).

One of the features that is different is the Guild has a polyurethane finish. The Gibson is nitro lacquer. One finish is not necessarily 'better' than the other. All the claims of nitro allowing the wood to breathe are hooey.

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Feb 20th, 2016 02:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If the wood needed to breath, then it has F holes.



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Feb 20th, 2016 07:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have the MIK, "Newark Street" Starfire I Bass. The fit and finish are great. I know that's not much help in comparing the 2 guitars you're considering, but at least it does speak to the MIK Starfire IV's build quality (assuming they're built in the same factory as the basses).

I would think that the maple stringer in the Starfire IV's neck would be a plus over the 335, adding a minimal bit of insurance against headstock breakage. Both guitars have mahogany necks, unless I'm mistaken.

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Feb 20th, 2016 09:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I checked one out in a store some time ago (on the rare occasion I ever get to "the city"--LOL). I did not plug it in. But I played it acoustically for a bit and I agree; very well-made and finished guitar. Felt really good. Was quite appealing, actually.

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Feb 21st, 2016 07:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Starfire iv is also available with a stop-tail tailpiece -- not just the Guild harp. Makes it even closer to the ES-335.


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Feb 21st, 2016 08:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The green stop-tail is nice. Wish they had offered my bass in that color.

I would assume that the one with the Harp tailpiece does not have a pinned bridge, which some folks would not like.

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Feb 22nd, 2016 02:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Stop tail also has the bridge posts rather than the floating bridge of the harp-tailpiece models.

Seems like that would add stability and sustain.

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Feb 22nd, 2016 03:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah, I had an old MIA, Epiphone Riviera with a trapeze tailpiece (though not a floating bridge) and also a 1980s, stoptail 335 and prefered the stoptail arrangement.

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Mar 2nd, 2016 08:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Have to say that while I'm a big Guild fan, there's really no substitute for an ES-335 if you're going after that tone.

I've played and owned both and if I had to pick just one, it would be the 335 every time. Gibson just REALLY got it right with the 335.

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