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HenryJ
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Feb 1st, 2018 03:29 PM   Edit   Profile  

So, Hammond101, tell us more about the mod to get the Strat to have the bridge and neck pickups together. Is it strictly DIY, or is it common for a guitar shop to do this for you?

The thing is, I like the sound of the neck and bridge pickups together. And I like the feel of a Stratocaster (as well as the sound of its neck pickup).

Fender offers Strats with an S-1 Switch that can sound all three pickups together, but not the bridge and neck together w/o the middle.

Thanks

Hammond101
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Feb 1st, 2018 03:52 PM   Edit   Profile  

I do all my own work so no shop was involved.

I use a push/pull switch pot or more recently push/push switch pots. The pot is wired same as stock. A wire from each of the neck and bridge PU leads runs from the selector switch to the switch and they are wired to the normally open legs of the switch.

Pull the switch out with the selector in the neck or bridge position and you have neck bridge. If you engage your switch in selector switch position 2 of 4 (quack)you have all three PUs.

The push/push switch is wired exactly the same way. The difference is you push the switch to turn it on, push the switch to turn it off. These are actually easier to operate on the fly.

I have two Am Dlx Strats and I ripped the funky S1 out of both of them.

HenryJ
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Feb 1st, 2018 04:01 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hey, thanks Hammond!

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Feb 1st, 2018 07:03 PM   Edit   Profile  

I second Hammond's bridge-neck recommendation. I used a mini switch on two self-assembled Strats instead of a push pull pot and it works like a charm and sounds great. When I play my other Strats I sometimes wish they were wired the same way, but two is enough.

Hammond101
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Feb 2nd, 2018 09:28 AM   Edit   Profile  

A while back I built a Gilmour Strat out of a Fender FSR guitar. This one got a mini toggle switch mounted to a custom bracket held in place by the volume and center tone pot shafts. The switch sits right between the selector switch and the pots.

Routing the pickguard is a bit more stressful than drilling a hole for a toggle however you only have the top of the switch lever sticking through the guard. I like the clean look.

Mini Toggle

6L6
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May 26th, 2018 10:01 PM   Edit   Profile  

Bridge with rewired Tone control turned down to 7.5.

Then get a BOSS RV-3 Digital Delay/Reverb pedal. Set the knobs (l to r) at:

“10:30”, “10:30”, “12:00”, “7”.

Plug that into your Fender Deluxe Reverb and prepare for surfing Mavericks!

6

(This message was last edited by 6L6 at 12:07 AM, May 27th, 2018)

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May 26th, 2018 10:01 PM   Edit   Profile  

double post. delete

(This message was last edited by 6L6 at 12:02 AM, May 27th, 2018)

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GospelBilly!
May 29th, 2018 03:15 PM   Edit   Profile  

Wrong, it's the neck pickup. Come on, it's not that difficult! (:oD

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May 29th, 2018 03:19 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hey, you're not a local! Are you a Holly? You're from the valley!

Get off my wave!

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GospelBilly!
May 30th, 2018 06:59 AM   Edit   Profile  

Way bro bru!

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May 31st, 2018 07:35 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've used the bridge pickup, but I angle it higher on the bass side and lower on the treble side. The sound is a bit more piercing without the brittle tone.

Hammond101
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Jun 1st, 2018 09:40 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hey 6, Dick Dale's reverb unit setting were 666.

archiestone
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Jun 6th, 2018 12:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

Paul Johnson is one of the early founders of the surf music genre and one of my guitar heroes. I saw him a few years ago and was surprised to see him playing his Strat in the neck only position. It totally works -- try it (w/ some nice drippy, cavernous reverb.)

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Happy Sunsets, tahitijack
Jun 9th, 2018 11:15 AM   Edit   Profile  

I'm in the minority, but I like the sound playing between neck and middle position. The bridge sounds too much like a spike through my ears. Dang I just saw Paul Johnson and bunch of the first wave players last Sunday and didn't think to look at what pup position they were playing. Oh well....

Hammond101
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Jun 12th, 2018 10:09 AM   Edit   Profile  

Jack, I played with Tom Stanton (Surf Kings) for a while. He is almost always on the bridge PU. He's a bit more over driven in tone and usually very wet with the verb.

He may have changed his sound a bit. I sold him a Jazzmaster that he may have played at that gig. MIJ CAR. He was previously a Strat guy.

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Happy Sunsets, tahitijack
Jun 14th, 2018 05:44 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hammond probably saw him at that gig. There were too many players on and off the stage hard to keep up. It was like a cross between a jam session and open mic. But it was all good. All the usual surf guitar heros.

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Jul 2nd, 2018 09:57 PM   Edit   Profile  

"Generally any position works as long as it is dripping wet with reverb."

I'm kind of on with this theory. If it's "whats the most iconic surf sound pickup position" then maybe not. But you can get surfy any ole place on a Strat IMO. I love the middle and bridge (not combined). Neck is definitely doable.

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Oct 8th, 2018 08:03 PM   Edit   Profile  

Paul Johnson (Belairs, Surfaris, Duotones & a host of others), the man who started it all with 'Mr. Moto', favors a 90s Strat Plus in the mid or neck position, depending. You can do a lot worse than to emulate him, for he is the true King of the Surf Guitar, imo. Listen to his exquisite work on...

The Lonely Bull

Hammond101
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Oct 9th, 2018 10:00 AM   Edit   Profile  

The Lonely Bull is one of my favorites all surfed up. Thanks for the link. I play the song in my acoustic duo much like Paul and Gil Orr did with the Duo Tones.

Paul has some health issues these days fighting a nasty strain of cancer. Mojo Paul!

archiestone
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El Californio

Oct 9th, 2018 07:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

^ YES, I am a big 'Lonely Bull' fan too!
Good news -- Recently, Paul is up and about. Not out of the woods but apparently he's weathering the storm. He has a facebook page with pics, well-wishes, vids, etc.

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