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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Stratocasters / SRV vs Am. Pro

NHILL1

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Jan 31st, 2017 12:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

(I messed up the title of the thread, its supposed to be SRV vs Am Special)

Hello, this is a bit of an extension/follow up on my previous thread about the amp pro and my thoughts on all the strats I had tried. I ended up purchasing the am special strat, and returned an srv strat I had.

My issue now though, is that I'm not sure thr amp special is what I wanted. Its good but I find it lacking the depth that the srv had in the bass, conversly it has better high end response. I like the features of the am special but at the cost of not quite having the same sound I'm in a tough spot. Any thoughts on the matter? I'm not sure if I'm just nostalgic about the srv, or if there really is a difference. The am special is good, very much so, but I feel it's not as sweet and characteristic sounding as the srv...Very tough spot to be in when theres such heavy costs involved, thoughts?

(This message was last edited by NHILL1 at 02:40 PM, Jan 31st, 2017)

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Jan 31st, 2017 12:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"but I feel it's not as sweet and characteristic sounding as the srv"

Sellers remorse. Go see if you can get that SRV back. Sounds like that particular SRV had the "it" factor that you may never find in another Strat.

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Jan 31st, 2017 12:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'll bet the SRV was a heavier guitar. That may have something to do with the tonal difference you perceive.

Try rolling back on the tone knob on the guitar or amp. Many players always play with the guitar's controls wide open; the knobs are on there for a reason.

One of the best things you can do to improve your tone is simple and free: turn up your amp.

Try the following.

Set your guitar's volume on 5 or 6. Set the tone where you like it.

On your amp, set the volume so it's just at the edge of breakup/grit when you hit the strings hard.

You're done.

Play softly with the guitar on 5 or 6, and you'll get crisp, clean tones, roll up the volume, and things fatten up quick.

NHILL1

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Jan 31st, 2017 01:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Peegoo, I almost always play at the same volume settings, and keep my guitar vol and tone at 10, so those are kind of static factors. Idk, I think writing about it helps and I do like the special, but the SRV just overall had a different character. All pickup positions were fatter sounding, where the Am Special is kind of treble oriented. I'll see, if I feel reallly compelled I may buy another SRV to compare to my special and go from there. That may be the best course of action, I just have to decide if thats what I want to do.

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Jan 31st, 2017 01:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The only guitar I ever regretted selling was my SRV. It had the sweetest neck and awesome,awesome tone. If you can still get that SRV I would snag it.

NHILL1

United States

Jan 31st, 2017 02:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Budg, as it turns out I am very fortunate with this situation and the dealer I purchased the guitar from is allowing me to buy another SRV strat (the one I had before had some neck/fret issues) and I'll be able to compare them directly.

This is a relief, I don't think anyone but a guitarist would possibly understand guitar induced stress, or at least that's what happens to me when I'm in a bind like this and have to make a decision.

That said, it looks like this situation is going to work out for the best all around, I'm happy to report that :)

(This message was last edited by NHILL1 at 04:44 PM, Jan 31st, 2017)

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Jan 31st, 2017 03:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cool outcome!

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Jan 31st, 2017 04:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I would listen to the advice on dialling down the controls. The guitar has a circuit designed to reduce treble without muddying up the sound.

The SRV came with heavier strings.

If, that is, you left everything stock.



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Jan 31st, 2017 04:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

FWIW: Whatever SRV Strat you end up with might not have the sound of the one you returned. Every guitar is different, even between the same make and model. I hope that you get a special one.

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Jan 31st, 2017 05:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It *is* very cool that your dealer is willing to work with you.

Patronize the hell out of them, because they deserve your business; they're working with you to keep you as a customer.

Not many guitar places are like this. You are fortunate!

NHILL1

United States

Feb 1st, 2017 01:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This is kind of funny but a dumb situation that happend, I ended up messing up the pickup height of the neck pickup on the Am Special, and it threw out the tone of the whole guitar. I set it up to how it's supposed to be and like a light-bulb everything started sounding normal...*Facepalm*

That said, even with all things equal there's still a difference between the two guitars, same things I said before apply. So I suppose this is good because I have options either way I want to go, as both guitars sound really good. Tough decision, I prefer the features of the Am Special, but I like the sound of the SRV...I have time so I'll get to think about it, but we'll see.

(This message was last edited by NHILL1 at 03:27 PM, Feb 1st, 2017)

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Feb 1st, 2017 06:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Most things being relatively equal on a good high quality American Strat (with great unplugged sound and resonance followed up with good plugged-in sound from a good set of pups), as I get older (assuming the guitar passes the test above), I am more discriminating now about how the particular neck feels in my palm and how comfortable it is for me from top to bottom.

Love what Fender did when they switched over to the 9.5 radius years ago, and the rolled edges on the necks, but any neck can really vary from instrument to instrument/model to model on any given day at times (off the sander and finishing touches including the frets). Big "x" factor for me now in choosing a guitar I can bond with and enjoy playing.

NHILL1

United States

Feb 2nd, 2017 01:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well feel is important, but I think sound is the ultimate test imo. You gotta have both if you're going for a lifer, and this is going to be the only electric guitar I own so it has to be right.

That said, I still haven't figured out one way or the other. I think I'm going to try the SRV if it is noticeably better I'll stick with it, but there's nothing wrong with the Am Special.

What gets me is there's properties of both I like. The SRV has a noticeably thicker mid-range and less metallic attack, the Am Special has a lot more high-end, and can come across kind of metallic when doing SRV/Hendrix double stops (ala Lenny/Castles Made Of Sand). So the decision is still up in the air, but luckily I have a choice so I think I'll get to try both side by side and go from there.

Saturn: To get back to you, tone controls do help quite a bit when taming the attack, but tone controls won't get you the character of a different guitar, and the SRV has a special fat character, whereas the Am Special has a more modern sound with more treble and a slightly flatter sound (not bad, just different). I'm still not sure though, it's a tough decision that I have no real reference to make other than my experience. No youtube videos really compare the two, you just have demos of both in different contexts. I'd be helpful if I had someone elses experience but I couldn't find anything on this specific situation.

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Feb 2nd, 2017 03:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I know someone will pipe up and disagree, but you can take the same electronics and shove them on lots of different Strats with little real difference.

Moving your pick around can probably compensate as much as different woods, etc..

Just my opinion, but if you can play SRV and Hendrix to the point where you are fussy about the tone you are getting you are obviously way ahead!

NHILL1

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Feb 2nd, 2017 04:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well I can only say that my ears hear a difference, and I'm no guitar aficionado SRV and Hendrix are just styles enjoy playing. That said, the differences aren't microscopic subtleties, they're pretty audible when you're accustomed to a certain sound. The latter being the SRV has a fuller sound, the Am Special being brighter sounding.

Also, I'm being fussy because this is the only guitar I'll own, and I want it to really cover the ground I play and be a guitar that I can tailor to the way I want it to sound. Also when I listen to recordings I had made with the SRV I just really like what I hear, and the Special just doesn't have the same UMP the SRV did.

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Feb 2nd, 2017 04:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"The latter being the SRV has a fuller sound, the Am Special being brighter sounding."

Are you referring to the SRV you had or the one that you might purchase? Assuming that they're different SRV's, and I hate to sound like a broken record, but there's no guarantee that the 2nd SRV will sound just like the 1st. In fact it might sound more like the Am Special. Just trying to help. :-)

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Feb 2nd, 2017 05:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Try swapping the electrics over while you have both guitars, and then see how you feel.

NHILL1

United States

Feb 7th, 2017 12:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, as it were, I'm considering just getting a different guitar all together. I've struggled with getting the TX Specials and dialing them in, and even at their best I still feel they're too dark and gritty.

So, it may be back to the drawing board as both the SRV and Am Special have Tx Specials.

Any suggestions? Lol. I will be going back to guitar center tonight for a showdown, I'll spend a couple hours contesting the guitars I find. But forsure at this point I'm open to suggestions. I would just get an Am Standard but they had to discontinue it :(

(This message was last edited by NHILL1 at 02:03 PM, Feb 7th, 2017)

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