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FDP Forum / I'd Hit It! - Drums and Percussion / Measuring drum bags ???

Tony Wright
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Feb 5th, 2017 10:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Do I measure the head size to find the bag that fits?

OR do I measure over the mounting device as well? (Hanging tom with thumb screw tension to hold drum at exact height on L-Rod, thus adding about 1.5 inches to diameter?)

Same question for the snare drum and strainer?



Tony Wright
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Feb 5th, 2017 10:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Follow up:

Do you measure height/length from top of top rim to bottom of bottom rim?

.........OR, am I obsessing about this much too much? I don't mind if the bag is a little loose.

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Feb 5th, 2017 12:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have these. They are made with enough room to handle the extra stuff on each drum.

As for height, they are two pieces and simply collapse to the height of the drum inside and strap tight.

Nomad

(This message was last edited by BlondeStrat at 02:23 PM, Feb 5th, 2017)

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Feb 5th, 2017 01:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had the same problem using "suspension mounts"; regardless of the equipment brand, it will add to the diameter of the drum.

With the hard cases there are usually two "corners" with extra space, that design is to allow a flat surface to lay the case down, not to compensate for the size of the drum plus external mounts of any kind. Sometimes even that doesn't help.

Bags don't allow for that, if the mounts are the problem, the only suggestion I have is to get the next size up bag to allow for the mounts, and if you feel the fit is too "roomy", get extra foam rubber (whatever thickness is needed) to compensate.

I would also recommend extra foam rubber to place on both the batter and bottom head for general protection. There is nothing worse at set up time to discover damaged equipment; you either don't have the replacement part or the time to repair it before a gig.

Good Luck.

Tony Wright
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Feb 6th, 2017 05:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks guys! I appreciate the input and advice. I cannot afford "hard cases" and probably will have some issues with cash flow on getting just four bags.

The budget price of this kit new is showing thru. The "cash black hole" became obvious at around $250-$300 on top of the purchase price.

However, my pride was injured...I am going to fix that thing right! And so I have been steadily running into "do it right or do it cheap" all the way thru this project.

If I played drums even a little bit, it would be different. But my personal inability to play drums is only shadowed by my inability to walk and chew gum or do brain surgery.

I suspected I needed to allow for the the mounting system.

Thanks again.

Tony Wright
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Feb 6th, 2017 07:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

When I said: "The budget price of this kit new is showing thru."

I neglected to point out the drum kit was VERY well used before I bought it. I suspect it was around 7 to 10 years old when I bought it. It certainly has plenty of road rash here and yonder.

And cheap pot metal lugs and components.

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Feb 6th, 2017 08:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ouch! On the bag front, I have RoadRunner bags for my Pearl kit which has suspension mounts for the rack toms. They fit perfectly ordering the exact size for each drum.

I have a Beato bag for the kick of my vintage Rogers kit. The drum swims in the bag, kinda big but still ok and easier to load.

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Feb 6th, 2017 08:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Tony: some cleaning & maintenance advice.

Regarding polishes, waxes, cleaners; Rule of thumb, any product you would use on your car, you can use on your drum kit.

Examples: use "Auto Detailing Fluid" for general cleaning, the fluid won't strip away wax or polish. spray on a rag, and wipe down, (even the drum heads & cymbals); use "Chrome Polish" for hardware & "Auto Wax" for the shells. They are a lot cheaper, and if you own a car; you probably have the products already.

NOTE: house hold cleaners "WILL" strip away polish or wax!

Lubrication: I find that sewing machine oil or "Hoppes" gun oil work well. Use sparingly. (I'm sure you can guess how I discovered the gun oil trick.)

If you have any scratches or scrapes on the drum shells, use "car body compound" to rub them out, the same way you would use it on a car, and then wax it. Maintenance and cleaning will make the kit last longer and "look" better.

Good Luck

Tony Wright
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Feb 7th, 2017 03:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hoppes...I am sure I could find some...if I could find my cleaning kit.

Hmmm, in the nearly 30 years I carried pistols:
S&W Mod 36 3 inch bull barrel .38 spec Personal
S&W Mod 15 4 inch .38 spec Personal
S&W Mod 15 4 inch .38 spec Dept owned
S&W Mod 13 4 inch .357/.38 spec Personal
S&W Mod 65 4 inch .357/.38 spec Dept owned
S&W Mod 686 4 inch .357/.38 spec Dept owned
S&W Mod 39 4 inch Nickle semi auto 9mm Personal
Sig Sauer P226 4 inch K coat, Tritium sights semi auto 9mm Dept owned

...and...

Sig Sauer P220 4 inch K coat Tritium sights semi auto .45ACP Dept owned, given to me on my retirement, only handgun I currently own or carry.

I might be able to find some Hoppes between the bass cabinets, the PA speakers, LEDs and drums...no, wait...sorry, that was some of my model trains. It's here somewhere.

Grizbear
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Feb 7th, 2017 09:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That is Music to my ears, Good Luck my friend.

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Feb 8th, 2017 09:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like to use anti-seize compound on all threaded parts, tension rods, cymbal stand height wingnuts etc. It will really smooth out the hardware and give it all better feel. Use very sparingly, a little goes a long way but it stays where you put it.

I like pledge on wrapped shells.

Tony Wright
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Mar 13th, 2017 10:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Glad to know about the Pledge...I have used it as needed off and on for 10 years on a couple of kits I have owned over time. I figured it had not failed me yet, so I would keep using it. Your suggestion and your use validate my "works for me" approach.

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