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fender213

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Marcus Swicegood
Mar 14th, 2017 12:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

yes my 1995 fender american delx, has three springs in the back. middle spring is a spring with some type of plunger looking system inside it????

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Mar 14th, 2017 05:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's probably a Tremsetter.



SonicBlue

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Mar 14th, 2017 08:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

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Hipshot Tremsetter

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The spotlight

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Mar 14th, 2017 08:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I thought this was going to be a commentary on the weather.

Carry on :o)

Te 52

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Mar 14th, 2017 10:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"...I thought this was going to be a commentary on the weather..."

Or maybe something like...

...this.

fender213

USA

Marcus Swicegood
Mar 14th, 2017 09:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

thanks so much for your help!pinetree & sonicblue!
I never use a tremolo arm any way, as of yet.I just want to know what it was!

I watched the video from hipshot! You reckon that little booger really works with accuracy?????

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Mar 14th, 2017 09:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You haven't played a Strat until you've play one with the trem set to float without a Tremsetter type dealybober. :)

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Mar 15th, 2017 10:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Some Strat Plus models from about that that time period came with a Tremsetter stock from the factory. It could be original to the guitar.

Does the Strat have Lace Sensor PUs and a roller nut?

fender213

USA

Marcus Swicegood
Mar 16th, 2017 12:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

yes Hammond101, this 1995 amer strat delux plus. i believe is what ur talking about. It has the lace sensors PU's, and a high tech looking nut of Stainless steel, w/ SS ball bearing looking rollers! Is this a good & functional part of this guitar? or just some Bells & whistles add on, that does nothing & looks good on paper? The guitar looks & plays like a real gem. I never use a trem arm, but just wanted to know if this is added value to this guitar? which i'd wouldn't think of selling!! I named my guitar "Harley" Because its American made!! Thanks, let me know if this is a good feature to my guitar or what! Marcus

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Mar 16th, 2017 08:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If you never use the trem arm then the Tremsetter may be a benefit, assuming that they work as advertised. I have no personal experience with them but they seem to get good reviews.

fender213

USA

Marcus Swicegood
Mar 16th, 2017 10:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

OK Viera, can u tell me a little more in detail, in ur post that u sent. why i've never played a strat w/ the trem set to float w/out the termsetter type dealybober? Sorta lost me on that one. Is my tremsetter causing me resistance problems? since i never use the trem arm ? Shoud i remove it and replace w/ a conv spring? Thanks for helping me!!! Just trying to learn stuff here.The Fender Strat has a one of a kind sound!! I like it!!! Marcus in NC.

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Mar 17th, 2017 09:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hmmm, you may even have the Fender Floyd Rose locking bridge on that one. I love that bridge on a Strat and own two.

The Tremsetter is supposed to insure the bridge returns to "zero" after each use. They work pretty well. If you Google Tremsetter you should be able to find the factory instruction to set it up properly.

Yes they do seem to add a bit of drag to the system when using the wang bar but properly set insure return to pitch.

I owned a Strat Plus Deluxe Ultra for a while (Blonde) and loved it. I ended up selling it to a guy in Russia to fund the purchase of a modern Am Dlx Strat.

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Mar 17th, 2017 10:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi fender213. I struggle to explain technical type stuff, but I'll give it a shot:

Disclaimer: I've never used a tremsetter. Any reference I make is based on what I've read.

The lower end of the bridge on a Strat set to float does not touch the body of the guitar. This allows for the pitch to be raised or lowered by moving the trem arm up or down. The bridge is held in this position by the tension of the springs only. The problem (for some) is that a floating trem subjects the guitar to what is known as string warble. When bending notes the open strings will go slightly out of pitch due to the springs giving way a little. I think that this is one of the charms of a Strat set to float, but many players are bugged by it.

Tremsetters are supposed to minimize or even eliminate string warble. The downside is that the trem arm becomes stiffer, something that I wouldn't like.

Another supposed benefit of tremsetters is that they reduce the time it takes to change tunings on a Strat set to float. This makes sense to me assuming that tremsetters work as advertized.

Some say that tremsetters improve tuning stability of Strats set to float. String warble aside I tend to disagree. IMHO a properly set up Strat set to float will stay in tune just fine. Those that do heavy dive-bombing with there trems might disagree with me.

Bottom line: If you like the way your Strat plays and sounds leave the tremsetter in. If I were to acquire a Strat with a tremsetter I would leave it in unless the trem arm was noticeably stiffer than what I prefer. Since you don't use the trem arm it shouldn't be an issue for you.

Best of luck to you. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable and better at explaining things will follow this post.

fender213

USA

Marcus Swicegood
Mar 17th, 2017 09:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

OK! thanks everyone for ur help!!!! I didn't hear any CONs about the trmstr! My rig plays & sounds great!! So if it an't BROKE don't fix it ! as my ole pappy would say! Most of "ALL" my Strat stays in tune!!!!! u know, unless you go from Hot to Cold! We got a wonderful music store here in Lexington NC,called Guitars USA. Great staff w/ support!Tech's are Fender certified, so i have no worries!! Good night everyone & thanks again, Peace out,my friends Marcus


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Mar 19th, 2017 02:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I was swept up by the Tremsetter frenzy when they first came out. And yes, I got one for my Am Std Strat. It did work as advertised. My only complaint was that I could feel it hit the stop when I lowered and raised the pitch of the strings. That bugged me so I ended up taking it out.

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