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6L6
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Apr 26th, 2017 02:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a 1997 '57 Vintage RI Strat that I really love everything about except... the Tone.

My Holy Grail for TONE is my 1960 Harmony Meteor with its hollow body and wonderful DeArmond "Gold Foil" pickups.

Now, I know no solid body is ever going to sound like that, but I'd like to get as close to that FAT tone as possible. I play clean music, mostly 50/60's rockabilly stuff. My amp is a '72 Fender Deluxe Reverb.

My guitar currently sports Lindy Fralin Vintage Hot pups. They're an improvement over the std pups, but far from the tone I'm seeking.

Should I consider a stacked humbucker or...?

Please help me out here. I love the guitar, but until I get the tone situation remedied, I won't be playing it and that's a shame.

Thanks for your advice!

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My 1960 Harmony Meteor

(This message was last edited by 6L6 at 04:25 PM, Apr 26th, 2017)

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Apr 26th, 2017 02:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A pic of my '97 Strat:

1997 '57 VRI Strat

ejm

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Apr 26th, 2017 02:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'll be the bad guy.

Sell the Strat to someone who will appreciate it for what it is.
Then buy a guitar that will do what you want.
Another Harmony, a Gretsch, whatever.





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Apr 26th, 2017 02:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I see that GFS makes Strat sized gold foils. It wouldn't be a route I'd take unless I had half a dozen Strats to mess around with.

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Apr 26th, 2017 02:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Jeez, I don't know--but I'm looking forward to hearing the suggestions on this one...

something like a P90 or a mini-humbucker in the neck position, or a filtertron-type, might be a good start...or something like an old Burns-type pup, like Brian May uses...

I doubt if a regular strat-type pup would really get you there...

In the meantime, check out this video--if you haven't seen it--of Ry Cooder talking about how he solved his Strat problem...

(And if you're not up for some routing, a stacked Strat pup won't fit those vintage routes, either...)

WWRD --What Would Ry Do?

(This message was last edited by Purple Valley at 04:55 PM, Apr 26th, 2017)

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Apr 26th, 2017 06:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My '93 looks the same. I don't know if this will help but I get a nice warm sound with the Fender VNs.

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Apr 26th, 2017 07:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nice looking Strat 6L6.

I was going to be the "bad guy" but ejm beat me to it. I have a little different take though.

It may be that your particular Strat, regardless of pups, just doesn't have the sound you're looking for. I've been down that road. I had a CS Strat that looked and played great; however I could never get the sound I wanted out of it. I swapped pups a couple of times and even tried a different neck. I concluded, after putting mucho dinero into that Strat, that there was just something about the body that didn't work tone wise.

My #1 Strat sports single coil Fender pups and is s 100% stock. It is the best sounding electric guitar I've ever owned. I say find another Strat that sounds like you want it to sound. You're a Hank Marvin fan. You NEED a Strat. :-)

All that said I wouldn't mind finding me a Harmony Meteor.



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Apr 26th, 2017 10:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"All that said I wouldn't mind finding me a Harmony Meteor..."

Here ya go, Viera. I've played it and it KILLS!

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1959 Harmony Meteor for Sale

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Apr 26th, 2017 10:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This dude gets some nice tones with this '59 Meteor. It's even thicker when played through a Deluxe Reverb:

Demo of a '59 Harmony Meteor

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Delete double post

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Apr 26th, 2017 10:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Dang you 6L6! I'm really happy with the guitars I have, but that Gryphon Meteor looks great. Very temping.......

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May 23rd, 2017 09:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

How can I get my Humvie to drive and handle like Prius?

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May 25th, 2017 06:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've read a lot of good things about the GF Gold Foils......but I don't think I'd screw around with THAT Strat, 6L6.

But even if you went that route (pun very much intended), it still won't sound like a hollow-body Meteor.

I'm going to join the "bad guys" and recommend shopping for something along the lines of another Harmony Meteor. Airline makes some similar recreations.

FWIW, I've got a set of Fralin Vintage Hots in my homebrew Strat and while those pickups ARE hotter than the "Real 54s" I originally had in it, they are far from most folk's definition of a "hot" pickup. So I can definitely see where they might not be FAT enough for you, in this case.

Here's an off-the-wall suggestion - how about a set of lipstick pickups in the Strat?
Not Goldfoils and still not hollow, BUT they might get you into that old-school, vintage-y, garage-kinda tone. Just a thought I had....

or this from Eastwood...

Texican

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Oct 18th, 2017 07:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"... I'd like to get as close to that FAT tone as possible. I play clean music, mostly 50/60's rockabilly stuff. My amp is a '72 Fender Deluxe Reverb. ..."

6L6, have you given any thought to Fender's Custom Shop Fat '50s?

6L6
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Nov 18th, 2017 02:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Have not considered the Fat 50’s, Texican. Would love to hear anyone’s experience with them!

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Nov 18th, 2017 06:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Fat '50s are my favorite Fender Strat pickups. Most Strat pickups sound a little too "thin" to me. Fat '50s add just the right amount of beef without losing the Strat identity.

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