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liverbird
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Searching for L40278.
May 17th, 2017 04:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Any takers?

$44,995.00

uncle stack-knob
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united kingdom

May 18th, 2017 09:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That is a huge price for one bass.....

Stack-Knob.

liverbird
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Searching for L40278.
May 18th, 2017 04:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah, but do we like it? (The bass, I mean...)

BonkersBass

Tejas

Do'in the 5 string thing!
May 19th, 2017 11:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Pass.

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

Fender...never say never.
May 19th, 2017 03:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Am wondering what USK thinks about the look of the pencil date on the neck butt?

George

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

Fender...never say never.
May 19th, 2017 03:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's rare...no question. But not 44K rare.

George

uncle stack-knob
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May 20th, 2017 03:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

George,I think the date looks o.k.
One thing I would check out would be the truss rod adjustment with regard to the neck relief and so on. Could just be the pictures but the adjuster is almost proud of the heel there;also the fingerboard is a slab-board,and appears very thick.......

Stack-Knob.

liverbird
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Searching for L40278.
May 20th, 2017 05:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

USK, interesting what you write about the 'proud' truss rod nut. When the adjuster 'disappearing' into the hole usually means that the truss could be near to maxed out, what implications might this opposite appearance have truss-wise?

Do you mention the thickness of the slab board in this context or is it more a general observation?

liverbird
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Searching for L40278.
May 20th, 2017 05:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

George, for comparison I have uploaded photos of the neck dates from two 1962 Jazz Basses to my profile, both 1 62. What do you think?

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

Fender...never say never.
May 20th, 2017 05:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

bird...the spacing between the "6" and the "2" on the neck butt of the red bass bothered me a bit and now I see somewhat the same spacing on the necks you shared in your profile photos. USK made the right call on this, but of course.
George

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

Fender...never say never.
May 20th, 2017 06:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a thought on the "proud" appearance of the truss.

Clearly, to my eyes, the truss shows signs of having been yanked on over the years. The screwdriver slots have that "stretched" look you get when a truss descends into the hole and then is turned hard once it's there.

My guess, and it's only a guess, is that someone (the seller) pulled the truss back out of the hole as part of the "presentation" of the neck butt to potential buyers.

I agree with USK also on the thickness of the board.

George

uncle stack-knob
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May 21st, 2017 05:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If,when strung and tuned to pitch at the required action,the truss rod adjuster nut is somewhat proud,and IF it has little or no tension on it,then it indicates that the neck may well have an issue that may be a backbowed condition.This may only be visible when the bass is de-tuned with no tension on the neck.The neck may,however,"pull straight" when tuned up to pitch.Always one to check/look out for.
It can also be quite innocent,and be caused by the depth of the truss rod adjuster hole drill depth being a touch on the shallow side.
Likewise,a SLIGHT tendency for the adjuster to be recessed should not automatically indicate that the rod is maxed out.
It remains a credit to Fenders' manufacturing back in those days that the truss rods did the work that they did,and continue to do,especially with these long slim bass necks.

Stack-Knob.

(This message was last edited by uncle stack-knob at 07:10 AM, May 21st, 2017)

uncle stack-knob
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May 21st, 2017 05:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

With regard to "thick slab-boards" (fingerboards).

There was a very good reason as to why Leo Fender stopped their use apparently.
Temperature and climatic changes resulted in finished necks being returned to the factory with twist and or warp problems.
The reason was mainly due to the difference in behaviour of the rosewood as compared to the maple
in changing temperature/humidity conditions.
On these necks the rosewood usually won the contest,and "pulled" the maple one way or the other.The strength of the rosewood board was compounded by the use of Fenders' swing arm fret slotting saws that imparted a shallow,narrow,
radiused set of fretslots that matched the radius of the fingerboard,nominally 7-1/4".
This meant that the slots had very little "kerfing" effect that would normally permit give or bending in the wood.
Compare all that to the later "curved boards" (they were not veneered,but milled).Those curved boards mostly eliminated the greater number of warping/twisting issues.They were thinner,and the slots were proportionately deeper,thus the kerf effect was re-instated.

So,as attractive as they are,the early slab-boards warrant a close inspection for all the usual neck issues,plus some.

Stack-Knob.


thedqmanfla

USA

Dots Only!
May 21st, 2017 09:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hello to all,
Ive had a chance to stop by and look at this bass.
I believe it is magnificent.
Too much $$ though.
Best regards
Mike

liverbird
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Searching for L40278.
May 21st, 2017 04:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Great stuff from all!

Did you get to play it as well, Mike? I guess you must be quite spoiled from your magnificent collection...

With regards to the slab boards, I suppose they varied a bit in thickness back in the day? Maybe more so than the curved ones?

thedqmanfla

USA

Dots Only!
May 21st, 2017 08:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I was quite impressed with it
But I cannot see any bass commanding
That amount of money.
I'm very happy to be back on the board.
Besides the amount of knowledge here,
Everyone is just so cordial, and genuine.
I've met really nice people,



edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

Fender...never say never.
May 22nd, 2017 05:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Based on my experience with slabs, some have been slightly thicker, some slightly thinner.

I've also seen a few milled boards in my day that darned near looked as thick as a slab.

George

Arizona Jones

Tucson, AZ

Not on the rug, man.
Jun 15th, 2017 03:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Looks like Geddy bought it.

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