FDP Home Page / FDP Forum / FAQ's

The FDP is made possible by the following companies and individual members like you.
Please use the links below to show them we value their sponsorship.

Jensen Loudspeakers

Yellowjackets Tube Converters

Musician's Friend

Antique Electronics Supply

Sweetwater

MOD KITS DIY

Amplified Parts

WD Music

Amazon

Apex Tube Matching

Guitar Center


* God bless America and our men and women in uniform *

* Illegitimi non carborundum! *

If you benefit and learn from the FDP and enjoy our site, please help support us and become a Contributing Member or make a Donation today! The FDP counts on YOU to help keep the site going with an annual contribution. It's quick and easy with PayPal. Please do it TODAY!

Chris Greene, Host & Founder

LOST YOUR PASSWORD?

......................................................................

   
FDP Jam
Calendar
Find musicians
in your area!
  Search the Forums  

FDP Forum / The 'Pup' Tent / Pickup upgrade for an Epiphone Dot Deluxe ?

Stratmanx
Contributing Member
**********
*******

Memphis, TN

May 18th, 2017 07:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I scored an Epiphone Dot Deluxe VS for a fair price yesterday.

Sweet guitar, but the pickups have got to go.

The neck has got no clarity, even when lowered as far as it can go. Muddy and totally useless.

The bridge is barely in the ballpark, but no 3D definition, and seems a bit hot and one dimensional.

Now the guitar itself is a different story, acoustic sustain for days and you can hear that the snarl is there on the bridge, so you know with good electronics its going to shine.

I don't think I'm going to go Lollar Imperials or the Fralin Pure PAF's in this, too high end, but am thinking something along the lines of a Duncan Seth Lover or Gibson 57 classics ?

I'm pretty much a rock player, so don't need a warm smooth jazz setup, but certainly aren't looking for over the top hot either.

What are you guys using in your 335's ?


Epi Corner

(This message was last edited by Stratmanx at 09:14 AM, May 18th, 2017)

RDR
Contributing Member
********

I tried to think

but nothing happened!
May 18th, 2017 07:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Pretty guitar! I've heard great things about Stewmac.com Parsons Street humbuckers here. Inexpensive, too.

Leftee
Contributing Member
*****

VA

May 18th, 2017 07:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The above-mentioned StewMac pickups are my go-to. Vintagey goodness and a great price.

They are not potted. So I don't know how that will play out in a semi-hollow body on stage.

I had a Dot the first year they were MIC. You described those pickups to a T. I ended up selling the guitar.

(This message was last edited by Leftee at 09:48 AM, May 18th, 2017)

Stratmanx
Contributing Member
**********
*******

Memphis, TN

May 18th, 2017 07:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Maybe the Parson Street Hot Humbuckers ?

Think these might be a bit over the top ?

Also, Alnico 5 in the neck and Alnico 2 in the bridge ?

Golden Age Parsons Street Hot Humbuckers

Leftee
Contributing Member
*****

VA

May 18th, 2017 09:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The standard offering rocks great too. I like those and let my amp do more of the work of rawking.

But yes, I don't think you'll be disappointed in your choices either. I've not tried those.

This is no joke. If I wanted to swap out the pickups in my Les Paul I would absolutely put a set of Parson Streets in that fine guitar. I like them that much.

I've also had great results with their Golden Age humbuckers.

Leftee
Contributing Member
*****

VA

May 18th, 2017 09:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

... and those are my standard mag choices as well.

Stratmanx
Contributing Member
**********
*******

Memphis, TN

May 19th, 2017 08:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So taking this a bit further, it looks like anytime you want to change pickups on a semi-hollow, you will also need to pull out the wiring harness.

So the thought is to use the connectors like
Gibson is going these days on the ends of the pickup wires and the wiring from the pots.

Now the fun part, what is the proper term for these ?

I've tried searching for "connectors" on Amplified Parts and Antique Electronics to no avail.

Mick Reid
Contributing Member
***

Australia

American-made in Oz!!
May 19th, 2017 08:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi Stratmanx.

Another option if you're being budget conscious is Tonerider.

They have a few options in the "vintage" output type as well as an Alnico 4.

From what I've seen, the V5 neck/V2 bridge is personal preference but not uncommon.
Conventional wisdom is opposite, but I think it's more about the individual H & DCR specs of each pickup.

I've had V2 neck/V5 bridge and also V2 x 2 and both worked for me. (not P-Streets though)

edit to add link:

Tonerider HB's

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 10:35 PM, May 19th, 2017)

Peegoo
Contributing Member
**********
**********
******

I've got my own

double-cross to bear
May 19th, 2017 08:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Standard power Parsons Streets. They are the most versatile of the lot. My favorite replacement humbucker ever.

vomer
Contributing Member
**********

Broke Down

in the Brassicas
May 22nd, 2017 04:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Not being a PAF-type humbucker fan I eventually settled on a Bareknuckle Mississippi Queen 'bucker-sized P90 in the neck of my Epiphone Sheraton, and a TV Jones Classic (Filtertron type) in the bridge. I couldn't be happier with the BK, and the TVJC is good but takes some top-end taming. YMMV with that combination, for my blues and rockabilly requirements it works well. But if you're sticking with humbuckers I'd go with the suggestions above. Or, at one time I had GFS Vintage 59's in there, which for budget pickups were a noticeable improvement on the Epiphones. Depends how much you want to spend.

But as someone who has now been through the f-hole of this guitar multiple times, I would definitely support the suggestion of connectors. And change the switch while you're in there. If you're keen, change pots, wires and jack socket as well. But the switch is the item most likely to give out on you.

Stratmanx
Contributing Member
**********
*******

Memphis, TN

May 23rd, 2017 09:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I received and put in the Parson Street's last night.

First of all, I was pleasantly surprised that the wiring harnesss in the Dot already had connectors on it, so it was a simple matter of snipping the one from the old pickups and soldering it to the new one and pop them in.

I was VERY impressed at what I was hearing, after spending about an hour and a half or so adjusting pickup heights running thru a DRRI, I was able to get the 335 "Bloom", where the note or chords seem to "Swell" after being stuck.

Total clarity in the neck and that hot Parsons Street in the bridge isn't what I would call a modern hot pickup, but just enough more than the stock to push the amp nicely.

At low volume you could hear the growl start to come on and then cranked up, that semi-hollow snarl was there in spades.

I've still got to replace the wiring harness with CTS and proper caps as well as replacing the crappy plastic nut with a pre-cut Stew-Mac unbleached bone, level and dres / polish the frets, but the Parson Street humbuckers definably woke this old girl up and gave her a lovely voice !

+10 on the recommendations !




(This message was last edited by Stratmanx at 11:24 AM, May 23rd, 2017)

vomer
Contributing Member
**********

Broke Down

in the Brassicas
May 24th, 2017 10:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sounds like a result. I love it when a plan comes together...

Stratmanx, you said precut from stewmac, I don't believe they do pre-cut, did you mean pre-shaped? Their pre-shaped Gibson nuts are too thin for the Epiphone. But their blanks are big enough. Also, if you are going to change up to CTS pots you might have to ream out the holes.

Apologies if I'm telling you stuff you know, but thought I'd check about the nut.

Stratmanx
Contributing Member
**********
*******

Memphis, TN

May 25th, 2017 07:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The CTS pots require a 3/8ths hole, so I stopped and picked up a stepped bit for that work, piece of cake !

And StewMac has the Slotted Unbleached Bone Nut.


I ordered the one for Gibson, narrow string spread, and it fits pretty well. Just some minor shaping and we're off to the races.

I've used these in my Stratocasters will great results.

Slotted Unbleached Bone Nut

Leftee
Contributing Member
*****

VA

May 25th, 2017 08:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Welcome to Parson Street!

littleuch
Contributing Member
**********
*****

Florida

May 25th, 2017 08:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've been intrigued by the Parson Street HB's for a while but didn't have a 2 HB guitar until recently. Got the Epi 335 Pro but so far like the stock pups good enough and the coil tapping option.

Peegoo
Contributing Member
**********
**********
******

I've got my own

double-cross to bear
May 25th, 2017 08:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Bazinga!

Much of the stuff in the Stew Mac catalog is overpriced, but the PS humbuckers are a great deal; not just for the price--but they are top of the heap in the tone department too.

Leftee
Contributing Member
*****

VA

May 25th, 2017 09:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Agreed. They do the true PAF thing really well for a nice price.

vomer
Contributing Member
**********

Broke Down

in the Brassicas
May 25th, 2017 11:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ah, I didn't search on 'slotted', sorry about that. The newer Epis may have narrower nuts, on my older Sheraton the Gibson nut would have left a gap. Sorry to give unhelpful information.

Hammond101
Contributing Member
**********

So. Cal. USA

Jun 30th, 2017 02:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Late to the party here.

I have the Parsons Street HBs in my Dot Deluxe and just love them. Made the little B just sing.

FDP Forum / The 'Pup' Tent / Pickup upgrade for an Epiphone Dot Deluxe ?




Reply to this Topic
Display my email address             Lost your password?
Your Message:
Link Address (URL):
Link Title:




Moderators: Chris Greene  Iron Man  reverendrob  

FDP, LLC Privacy Policy: Your real name, username, and email
are held in confidence and not disclosed to any third parties, sold, or
used for anything other than FDP Forum registration unless you specifically authorize disclosure.

Furtkamp.com 
Internet Application Development

Copyright © 1999-2017 Fender Discussion Page, LLC   All Rights Reserved