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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Telecasters / Gotoh hell (bridge content)

littleuch
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May 18th, 2017 12:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm looking to replace the bridge on my Warmoth parts Tele with a Gotoh bridge. Because the Gibson scale neck, P90 and GFS Lil Puncher config I'm looking to get away from the traditional Tele plate currently mounted (Joe Barden). This one from Stewmac was recommended, but I'm concerned about the length being too long for the traditional Tele thinline pickguard.

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littleuch
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May 18th, 2017 12:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

And this one is also a Gotoh, available from Warmoth. I cannot tell if there is a difference aside from the price.

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May 18th, 2017 12:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The guitar in question

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May 18th, 2017 04:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey littleuch,
I forgot how sweet looking that tele is!

I presume you have the dimensions of the existing bridge for comparison, but looking at the gap that's presently between the bridge plate and the pickguard, I would think there's plenty of wiggle room there.

I can't remember what the routing looks like under the guard on the thinlines, but I think there would be at least a couple of millimetres that could be gained by filing that little corner of the area in question if needed.
A man of your talents could do that easy-peasy!

You could probably find a as-new used MIM Standard Tele bridge for peanuts that should fit as well.

If we were closer, I'd give you the one I pulled of my 2013 Mex Std!


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May 18th, 2017 04:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Gotoh bridge is a direct substitution for a vintage-style Telecaster bridge. The dimension from the row of mounting holes to the headstock end of the bridge is 2.900 inches, same as the vintage bridge.

(This message was last edited by Te 52 at 06:48 PM, May 18th, 2017)

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May 18th, 2017 05:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks guys. TE, I think you recommended the Gotoh in another thread some time back. But I keep seeing one referenced as "Standard", another "Modern". Do you think the Stewmac and Warmoth are the same bridge?

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May 18th, 2017 09:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I could be wrong, but they look to me to be the same. The vintage-style Tele bridge has four mounting holes on the headstock side of the string-through-body holes, while the American Series/Standard bridge has three mounting holes on the end pin side of the STB holes.

Both the StewMac and Warmoth photos clearly show the mounting holes on the headstock side, which leads me to believe they are the same part. I can't explain the substantial price difference.

Some people refer to the Gotoh conversion bridge as a "modern" bridge because it has most of the features of the "modern" American Standard/Series bridge, like rectangular sintered saddles, no bent=up sides, etc.

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May 19th, 2017 07:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thread title of the year.



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May 19th, 2017 07:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It took me a while. But I see what you did with the thread title. :-)

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littleuch
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May 22nd, 2017 04:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I went ahead and ordered the Warmoth Gotoh bridge, received and installed today. Perfect fit, quite the heavy chunk of metal. I love traditional Tele bridges, 3 brass saddles, etc. This just seems more appropriate for this weirdo guitar, and there's no denying the better intonation.

I also did something I haven't done in long time and that's forsake the 11's and installed 10's. Hoowee, gettin' crazy here.

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May 22nd, 2017 10:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Good news littleuch!

I kept the "modern" 6 saddle bridge on my Tele that I put a conversion neck on as well.
However, I did put vintage Kluson-style tuners (Gotoh) on it.
I just like the way they work/feel and hold the string.

re: "gettin' crazy here."
Putting 11's on would be crazy! My hands are sore just thinking about it!
Glad it worked out for you.

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 12:22 AM, May 23rd, 2017)

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May 23rd, 2017 07:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The one oddity of this bridge is the saddle height adjustments. Because they're square and fit tight there really isn't any left/right adjustment. If one screw is higher, the other simply floats and doesn't make contact with the bridge plate. Not really an issue as this is a 10-16 compound radius and I have things set pretty flat.

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May 23rd, 2017 03:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"If one screw is higher, the other simply floats and doesn't make contact with the bridge plate."

Just make sure that all the height adjustment screws are indeed making contact though.

It's amazing how much buzz one of those little suckers can generate if they're not snug.

I doubt it would make a noticeable difference in transference/sustain, but they can definitely rattle!

FWIW, I know some prefer to set the saddles so they follow the radius, but I set mine parallel to the bridge plate.
I don't know if there's a right or wrong in that situation but I don't feel any difference in the string spread. (even though I understand it logically)

edited for missed words :^)

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 09:15 PM, May 24th, 2017)

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May 24th, 2017 07:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"but I set mine parallel to the bridge plate"

Recently I tried something on a lark and it has provided good results. Using my favorite guitar setup, I took a business card and drew reference lines for this guitar's string height centered at the 17th fret. One reference line for the low E, one for the A&D, one for the G and one for the B and high E. I use this for quick setup, then tweak based on feel and intonation.

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