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Rick Knight
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May 27th, 2017 04:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've been thinking about a light weight 2x10 cabinet with the speakers placed diagonally. Both companies have them, as well as combos with this configuration, that are much lighter than my current rig. I'd like to hear from those who have experience with either or both. There is a GK dealer about 25 miles away, but nobody seems to be an Ashdown dealer in this area.

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May 27th, 2017 08:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Timely topic. My main cab is a G-K Neo 4x10 which has totally converted me to being a ten inch believer. I'd like a small, light 2x10 and was surprised to see G-K doesn't do one in their Neo line. I'll be interested in seeing what you find out.

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May 29th, 2017 03:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have the 1st gen GK 210 Neo combo. It's not 'pants-flappingly loud', but it does the job especially if you're already running thru the house PA. Plus it has a speaker out if you needed to run a bigger rig.
And nice and easy to carry out at the end of the night!
I wonder if they discontinued it? Or changed the speakers from the NEO?

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May 29th, 2017 04:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm using the Neo SWR golight. The GB 9.0 puts 500 watts into it. It covers most of my indoor jobs. Bass, amp and cab are easily carried in one trip. I'm sure the SWR is not top shelf but is does the job, I like it better than a couple others I tried.

I have a couple other cabs an early Eden 4X10 SWR and a 15 Hartke, which is also functionally OK.

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May 31st, 2017 10:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've got an earlier G-K MB210 Combo. It's got plenty of oomph, especially when I add my G-K 2x12 extension cabinet. Both are lightweight, thankfully.


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May 31st, 2017 10:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

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Jun 2nd, 2017 06:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

mroulier: The "combo" is not a "NEO" series but DOES have NEO speakers in the combo amp. That lightweight, with NEO speaker combo amp series is the MB for Micro bass. MB115 came in both 8 and 4 Ohm versions, there was the MB210 (which I had for about 5 years, loved it) along with the MB212 and and the MB410...there were also heads and extension cabinets (extension cabinets were the MBE series) as well as the ability on many/most of the MB combos to drive an extension cabinet...the MB410 and MB115-4 Ohm being the two exceptions.

Later, GK decided to upgrade the cosmetics of cabinets and released the same series as the "-II" series (as in "MB-210-11"). Some owners complained the lightweight metal grill vibrated thus the move to a cloth grill with a prominent GK on the front. About this time, the extension cabinets were relabeled to be the "CX" series.

And then GK decided to issue a better designed cabinet (meaning slightly heavier with stronger "lightweight" metal grill" under the "NEO" model name...the current "tour quality" GK cabinets are the NEO but there are also some of the older technology RBH cabinets still available.

The current "NEO" line up only offers 1-12, 1-15, 2-12, 4-10 and 4-12 cabinets. At the same time, the current "MB dash II series" which also has NEO speakers, is offered in 1-8, 1-10, 1-10, 1-12, 1-15, 2-10, 2-12, and 410 COMBO amps and I believe the "CX" series of extension cabinets is offered in the 1-15, 2-10, and a 4-10 in both 8 and 4 Ohms. The 4 Ohm CX-410 is apparently intended to serve as a stand alone cabinet under a GK head of your choice. The rest are "8 Ohm mates for the combos AND the head of your choice."

So, there is still a MB-210 and a CX-210 that both have a NEO speaker in them, but there is not a NEO series cabinet that has the 2-10 speaker arrangement.

YES, it IS confusing.

...and I did not even discuss the MBP powered extension cabinet options.

As for "me", I downsized to get into the MB-210 shortly after it was released. It was my "not going to buy another bass amp till I die" birthday present to myself on my 60th birthday. I kept it till I was 65 and sold it. Two years ago, I downsized again to an Ampeg SVT210AV cabinet and an Ampeg PF-350 head. The MB210 was slightly "awkward" to carry and I continually banged my legs. The MB-210-II (newer version of my previous amp, but same weight) comes in at 35 pounds. The mini Ampeg rig I put together comes in at 8 pounds for the head amp and 2x10 cabinet is 26 pounds making a total load of 34 pounds.

More importantly, it is physically smaller for transport and it carries much simpler and does not try to remove my kneecaps. NO! It does not sound better and is not louder than the GK MB210 original model that I owned. But since I am not in a "rock band" currently, well, I have forgiven myself...


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Jun 2nd, 2017 03:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I used the monitor shaped GK Neo with 2 tens... it sounded good, and later I coupled it with a single Mark Bass single fifteen cabinet. That was a VERY good sounding stack,(somewhat ugly visually, LOL) but no matter how light, the depth and dimensions of the cabs still meant slightly more difficulty in transport. Not a bad compromise....

Now however I have ditched all the above and use a Quilter Bassliner -- single twelve on top of a Quilter double ten. Clarity, power, punch, and a LOT of air being pushed when needed. All in two 30 pounds or so cabs, but the best part is how thin they are, easily carried one per hand, even up a flight of stairs. And the 4 pound Quilter Bass Block head slips into either cabinet, which makes for a very sleek appearance on stage.

Best tone and all-round versatility I have enjoyed in close to 50 years of playing thru all manner of rigs. (Pricey, but worth every dime!)

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