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FDP Forum / Guitar Mods, Repairs, and Projects / plans for a DIY fret-rest type thing for strats?

rockstar_not

USA

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Jun 20th, 2017 10:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just bought a cut-yer-fingers chinese made Squier strat, and the first thing I did to see if I could get a little fewer razor edges was condition the fretboard with some Lizard Spit - like lots of it hoping that the quite dry rosewood will maybe expand a little. However, I'm thinking I need to do some real fretwork in both tapping in and dressing the ends, and I don't have a proper fret-rest type neck support. I paid $25 for the guitar, just to keep things in perspective. I bought it almost just to have an inexpensive guitar neck to practice on. Anyone have some good DIY plans to make a neck support for doing fret work?

Mick Reid
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Jun 20th, 2017 11:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There's no limit to DIY for this.
You can use everything from stacking some bean bags to blocks of medium density foam.

I'm sure someone will come up with something more specific and elaborate, but it doesn't have to be.
Stable and non-scratch are the two main criteria imo.

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Jun 21st, 2017 06:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just use a bath towel with one end rolled up. Fully adjustable, and protects the guitar body as well. Completely free as it came out of the cupboard :-)

It's a fairly old one, not too fluffy anymore so it sits still and stable.

If I'm doing fret work, to catch metal filings I cover it with massage-couch towel roll which I have an endless supply of. Your local masseur/osteopath etc. would probably sell you one for a few dollars.

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Jun 21st, 2017 02:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You don't really need a neck rest to do guitar work. Everything you need to do (even fret grinding) can easily be done by supporting the neck with your free hand. There's never enough pressure on the neck to damage anything if there's no neck rest.

In addition to the above, most things sold as neck rests get in the way of working fret ends like you'll be doing. You have to move the rest out of the way. Goofy!

Best approach is to roll up a small towel as a pad about 3" thick, and place it under the headstock behind the nut. On a tilt-back headstock (e.g., Gibson electric, most acoustics, etc.), it's important to have the pad behind the nut and not at the end of the headstock.

If you choose to use a neck rest that cradles the back of the neck while you do fretwork, it's good practice to apply several strips of 2" wide painter's tape down the back of the neck. This is necessary because as you file the fret wire, small metal particles can get between the back of the neck and the cork/rubber/whatever cushion on the neck rest and they'll scratch up the finish. The tape protects the finish.

About the only time I use a neck rest is when I'm hammering or pressing a fret into place.

Also--a lot of guitar people believe fret wire particles will be attracted by the pickup magnets, so they tape up the pickups to protect them. Common fret wire is non-ferrous and not magnetic. Some stainless steel fret wire is mildly magnetic, but most is not.

However! If you're using steel wool on the frets or fretboard--absolutely tape up the pickups to protect them.

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Jun 21st, 2017 02:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I use my bean bag gun rests, or in a pinch I'll cut a pool noodle in half, use the ones with the holes running down the middle, they're a bit more stable. Rolled up towel does it just as well.

I use a lot of pool noodles, dollar store specials "o)

FunkyKikuchiyo

VT

Jun 21st, 2017 11:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Anything you want. If you find something that is vaguely neck shaped that you want to use, you can put a piece of leather on it to protect and it'll work great. You can make something V shaped out of plywood or other scraps, and stuff it with whatever padding is lying around.

Also, go easy with the fingerboard conditioner. Contrary to popular belief they will not rehumidify a piece of wood, because they are oils and waxes, not H2O. They actually are just a light finish. The danger of using too much is that is soaks into the end grain around the frets and makes the fret slots wonky. Though, a $25 guitar will likely never live to see a refret, which is when that would be the most of a pain in the fanny.

I'm not sure what you mean by "tapping in" the fret ends. If you mean seating the ends of the frets, bear in mind that if they were sitting high at the factory, it would have been leveled in their uneven state, so seating them will be good in many ways, but will likely necessitate a fret leveling since you'll send it all askew in the process.

hotblooze

World Traveler

Wood, magnetic coil and strings.
Jun 22nd, 2017 03:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Bag of sand.

Mick Reid
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Australia

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Jun 22nd, 2017 05:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Bag of sand."

WOOT!! Band name alert!!!!

FunkyKikuchiyo

VT

Jun 22nd, 2017 07:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

""Bag of sand."

WOOT!! Band name alert!!!!"

Only if your lead singer looks like Steve Carrell.

Te 52

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Jun 23rd, 2017 11:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Pool Noodles"

Band Name Alert!

rockstar_not

USA

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Jun 24th, 2017 05:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for all of the ideas. I've used the rolled up towel before for restring and intonation adjustments. The sand bag idea is intriguing.

rockstar_not

USA

Thank God for guitars!
Jun 24th, 2017 05:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for all of the ideas. I've used the rolled up towel before for restring and intonation adjustments. The sand bag idea is intriguing.

rockstar_not

USA

Thank God for guitars!
Jul 2nd, 2017 09:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

How's this for DIY? Towel on the table, unused roll of masking tape under the neck was exactly the right height.

Did the fret end work with some needle files that I 'safed' with an orbital sander.

Mick Reid
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Australia

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Jul 2nd, 2017 10:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Necessity is the Mother of invention...

Sounds like a good outcome.


vomer
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Jul 3rd, 2017 02:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Result! And definitely a good idea to have a safe edge on fret files.

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Jul 3rd, 2017 04:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I take a Yoga mat that I bought for $12 and unroll enough for the guitar length and the rest of of roll supports the guitar neck.

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Jul 3rd, 2017 05:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

One that's available at your local Cabela's or Bass Pro is a bunny ear bag.

Made of leather, you fill it with sand and tuck in the little fill spout. These are used as rifle rests, and work great as a neck rest.

This

mirrorboy

Yorkshire, England

Jul 3rd, 2017 07:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am blessed with a Dunlop 65 neck cradle. Got it for Christmas from my good lady wife.

The other side to the V is flat for working on the back of the guitar.

Link

rockstar_not

USA

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Jul 4th, 2017 08:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Found another solution at the local goodwill: a set of old ankle weights.

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Aug 7th, 2017 08:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a lead shot bag----

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