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Ryder
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Butterscotch Blues
Jul 28th, 2017 06:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mmmmm, delightful!

Found the battery. Nice. I like the Baggs system. Tuner is right on, presence, treble, middle, bass, volume.

thumbpicker
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"Thumbpicks don't slide into soundholes"
Jul 28th, 2017 08:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Did you do the old "two dimes stacked under the bass string at the 12th fret" to see if it's really set up too high? I switch from acoustic to electric and back a lot and if I haven't been fighting the acoustic guitars for a while I swear they are screwed up. Then the reality sets in. I'm just not used to the acoustic strings anymore .

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Jul 28th, 2017 09:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What gauge strings are you using on the Breedlove? I think that often folks go too heavy on acoustic strings. I find it comfortable to use 12-53. Sometimes I'll go to a 13 for the high E. Depends.

To lower the saddle, I get a brand new (very clean, very flat) fine-toothed file. Once the saddle is off the guitar, I can set it down evenly on the surface of the file and slide the saddle across the surface of the file nice and evenly in the cutting direction--shaving just a hair at a time. You can get a very even and smooth cut this way. Trimming just bits at a time, you can reset the saddle and see how much improvement there's been and if it suits your taste.

I don't have the experience in working nuts or their slots comparatively. I would probably go to a tech for that (not easy around here in the boonies).

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It's all gravy from here on...
Jul 29th, 2017 04:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I watched the luthier @ EM Shorts cut the saddle down on my J-45. He pulled out the saddle, drew a pencil line on the bottom edge(corner) front and rear. Then he sanded it, one direction, with a piece of maybe 180-220 grit flat on the table until the pencil line just disappeared. Stuck the saddle back in, tuned it up, checked the action and then repeated once again. He showed me how so I could do it myself. (I'm a long time good customer). Anyway, that's how the big boys do it!

Also, if you get it back together and the transducer is not picking up a string or two he said to take a couple pencil eraser rubbings and drop them in the area that's not working. The eraser rubbings will compress under pressure transducer will work again.

Ryder
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Butterscotch Blues
Jul 29th, 2017 06:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks guys.
I'm in touch with Mike Horan at Mass Street Music in Lawrence, KS. He said $50 for the setup...includes the nut and saddle adjustments.

I could sand the saddle, but don't want to mess with the nut.

(This message was last edited by Ryder at 08:23 AM, Jul 29th, 2017)

Ryder
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Jul 29th, 2017 06:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

stratacowboy, Breedlove's website says D'Addario EXP 16.

Not sure what those are. I played as long as my hand could take it last night.

It came with another bridge and a couple of thin white strips. Are those shims?

(This message was last edited by Ryder at 08:44 AM, Jul 29th, 2017)

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It's all gravy from here on...
Jul 29th, 2017 07:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

12-16-24-32-42-53.EXP Coated Phosphor Bronze Acoustic Guitar Strings

Ryder
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Butterscotch Blues
Jul 29th, 2017 07:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Will do!

stratcowboy
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Jul 29th, 2017 09:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That's a reasonable gauge. Should play pretty easily, actually. Sooooo...probably a setup thing and a "gettin'-used-to-it" thing.

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Jul 29th, 2017 09:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"It seems to like the Carvin V16"

I used to use my Carvin V16 for AE at home with pretty good results. Try turning the mid up all the way and turn the bass and treble to 0. Supposedly (I heard it on the internet so it must be true :-) ) doing this partially bypasses the tone circuit making it sound more like an actual Acoustic electric amp.

Enjoy that new Breedlove.

Ryder
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Butterscotch Blues
Jul 29th, 2017 10:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Sooooo...probably a setup thing and a "gettin'-used-to-it" thing."

I believe that's exactly what it is! Yeah, my fingers are bleeding now! ;-)

Viera, thanks for the tip, I'll try that here in the next few minutes.

Thanks guys.

Ryder
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Butterscotch Blues
Jul 29th, 2017 10:28 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Viera, I did the amp thing and it sounds pretty amazing!

Since yesterday I've been adjusting the truss rod, and that has helped with the action quite a bit. It's still high but better.

Viera
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Jul 29th, 2017 02:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Good to hear. FWIW, I also have a PRRI. The V16 worked better for AE purposes. My AE was a Cole Clark Fat Lady.

Ryder
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Jul 31st, 2017 05:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm taking it in the 8th, when I get home from vacation. $50 for the setup.

It's an hour and a half from my house so he sets up an appt. and does it while I wait. Maybe he'll let me watch?

(This message was last edited by Ryder at 01:52 PM, Jul 31st, 2017)

Ryder
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Butterscotch Blues
Aug 9th, 2017 06:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Took the guitar for its first setup. She did very well! My, my, what a difference. A little nut filing and saddle sanding and I had already adjusted the truss rod. So much easier to play!

Jhawkr, I played a T5z. If I could have afforded it, it would have come home with me. But, this Breedlove sounds great!

Thanks all.

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Aug 9th, 2017 09:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Oh man don't remind me about the T5z. My local GC has a used T5z custom koa for just under $2K.

Glad you are getting along well with the Breedlove.

(This message was last edited by Hammond101 at 11:35 AM, Aug 9th, 2017)

Ryder
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Butterscotch Blues
Aug 9th, 2017 07:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I can't believe the difference! Like a real guitar now!

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Aug 10th, 2017 10:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A proper set up makes a good guitar a great guitar. Let us know how it works out with the group.

Ryder
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Butterscotch Blues
Aug 10th, 2017 12:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

As soon as I can play it in the group I'll let you know. Like I said, I'm the single coil player in the church band.

kego
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Aug 14th, 2017 09:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

+1 on a good setup making a world of difference! Let us know how it turns out - Breedlove makes some fantastic guitars!

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