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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Jaguars & Jazzmasters / Found an interesting Jaguar, need help estimating value

Misiek

Poland

Aug 7th, 2017 01:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi!

I found exactly what I was looking for - an interesting Fender Jaguar for sale - a Crafted in Japan 60' model from 2002 in mint condition. Alder body, maple neck, rosewood board, medium jumbo frets, bone nut.

Before making the purchase I'd love to know two more things about it, and where better to ask than here, among some of the finest Fender people around? :)

1) what do you think about the price of $1150? Is this a fair deal?
2) Apart from hearing that Japanese Jaguars sound amazing and oftentimes superior to their American counterparts, I also heard about some problems with internal electronics in a part of Fender guitars from Japan. Does those apply to this model also? If so, what exactly would need to be changed and is this still a good purchase?

Thank you for all your very much appreciated help!

(This message was last edited by Misiek at 03:48 AM, Aug 7th, 2017)

back breaker

eureka, usa

Kid! STOP! you're rockin' the forest!
Aug 7th, 2017 10:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

there is a american thin skin jaguar that is a really great upgrade from your description. this one has had the pickups upgraded and the bridge upgraded (which people go for a lot of time and also additionally cost a few hundred more than stock). this is now 1200 bucks to give you a reference (at least)

blue thin skin jaguar

Misiek

Poland

Aug 7th, 2017 11:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

@back breaker: I am not sure how to understand your message. By the time I clicked the link you provided, the guitar was already $1900.

Are you trying to make a point that if a, according to a very brief research, non-Japanese, slightly damaged limited edition is worth $1900, then a regular CIJ isn't worth the $1150?

Nevertheless, thank you for your input!

back breaker

eureka, usa

Kid! STOP! you're rockin' the forest!
Aug 7th, 2017 11:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

not at all,

first off- the guitar is at 1200 (he'd like some one to purchase it for 1900 but that ain't going to happen due to the fact that it is not stock nor complete). but that being said, the stuff added (pick ups and bridge) are things that people normally the upgrade at the cost of few hundred bucks.

the price you said of the japanese one was 1150 (50 bucks less than one that is a slight step below a custom shop one) so i thought that maybe either the one you are looking at might be priced a bit high or maybe this one is a good deal -

that is my only take on it. you can also look at some pretty complete 62 american vintage ones (which i find to be superior to the japanese ones- played both-). that's just my take one it.

also, that blue one looks pretty good even with the slight ding here or there on it.


Misiek

Poland

Aug 7th, 2017 12:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

@back breaker: Oh, that's what you meant. Also a huge fail with the eBay prices on my side - sorry for that.

Well when you put it that way, it makes perfect sense. Thank you so much!

back breaker

eureka, usa

Kid! STOP! you're rockin' the forest!
Aug 7th, 2017 12:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

no problem. miscommunication is my specialty so i always take the chance to clean up my intention.

there are usually a bunch on both reverb.com and eBay that will give you a good idea of what is reasonable for you.

i am a huge fan of jaguars and my only guitar is a thin skin one like the one in the link (mine is stock and gold in color). i have played owned actual 62's and 64's, an avri 62 and this thin skin avri. the one i have now is superior to all the others i have owned up to this point and can not see having another guitar -once again, after 30 years of owning them, this is the only guitar i own and play (and live at that). to each his/her own but they are very very satisfying guitars.


Misiek

Poland

Aug 7th, 2017 02:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This sounds amazing! I might as well look for one of those then. What price range would you judge fair for this piece?

Also, you decided to leave it stock and not change the pickups or bridge because simply it sounds so good to you, or was there any other reason behind it?

back breaker

eureka, usa

Kid! STOP! you're rockin' the forest!
Aug 7th, 2017 04:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like to leave my equipment stock and just deal with the struggle it comes with- it's just me. personal preference, i guess. but people rant and rave about the pick ups that are on that eBay guitar as well as a mastery bridge. if you find that you want to go back to a stock set up, for whatever reason, it's very inexpensive to do so (under 150 for both replacements together). the thin skins are reasonable at 1200 to 1500 (always used)- they are pretty rare at this point. you can find avri (non thin skin) for roughly 1000 if you work at it... they will come with dings and possibly the same upgrades but from what i hear, people love those upgrades.

surfdog
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Jim
Aug 7th, 2017 06:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

After owning one of the original 1960's Jaguar since it was new and now owning a Johnny Marr Jag. The Johnny Marr is a far better playing and sounding guitar the my original. I have many great guitars, but my favorite now is the Johnny Marr Jaguar model. It's worth looking at new if it can fit your budget, or look for a resale for lower price and more value.

In addition, my friend had a Jaguar made in Japan. In my opinion it was not as good as some of the newer ones now available. My friend ended up selling it.

reverendrob
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our time in hell
Aug 7th, 2017 08:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The MIJ Fenders are acceptable but not worth the cult-like prices that folks are asking for them.

The electronics are very, very wanting (as is the finish much of the time).

Don't get me wrong, my '69RI (domestic Japan market) Mustang is a fine guitar with nothing wrong with it, but..the paint is thin and prone to chipping off (literally) and my Squier offsets (Mustang, Jaguar, Jazzmaster, VI) are superior in sound and playability and have *it*, where the MIJ is ..just average.

Don't also be convinced by the internet that the Mastery/etc bridge upgrades are necessary. Use some Loctite on the bridge saddle screws to keep them in place, adjust intonation and trem like the manual says (and not think it's a Strat like most bad techs), and you'll be fine.

I've been playing Fender offsets of one stripe or another for 25+ years now.

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Godzilla the Thread Killa
Aug 12th, 2017 09:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"first off- the guitar is at 1200 (he'd like some one to purchase it for 1900 but that ain't going to happen due to the fact that it is not stock nor complete). but that being said, the stuff added (pick ups and bridge) are things that people normally the upgrade at the cost of few hundred bucks. "

Postscript...it sold for the $1900.

back breaker

eureka, usa

Kid! STOP! you're rockin' the forest!
Aug 16th, 2017 07:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

some one had less than stellar bargaining skills.

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