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Tony Wright
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Aug 9th, 2017 10:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, truth in advertising, he is my wife's sister's grandson...that is a grand or great nephew...in law?

No dad in the picture...never has been. He needs something to keep him occupied now that he was returned to his family by Child Protective Services (age 15+).

I found a Squier Strat locally (CL purchase) and I am now looking for an amp...and perhaps pedals.

So what do you buy today's musician...well, tomorrow's potential musician....?

I am being kind of stingy in part because I also bought his 13+ year old brother a Dean left handed bass and a Peavey Headliner cabinet (stupid deal of the day) and threw in one of my two Ampeg PF350 heads. So, I am kind of cash poor.

Here are my local options as I see it:

Fender Champion 100
Fender FM212
Fender Mustang III V2 112 100Watt
Peavey Bandit 112
Marshall MG50DFX
Marshall MG100FX
Marshall VS100

All the above are combo amps.

I probably need some advice on 2 or perhaps 3 pedals.

I have no idea what the typical 15-17 year old plays thru while in garage bands during his high school years. (Obviously, they like different music than I do...go figure...)

If you have a suggestion of a different amp with pedals, let me know...I am NOT locked into any of the above...

Thanks in advance for your input.

BbendFender
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Aug 10th, 2017 08:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Tony, I wish you were down this way. I have a couple of great amps that I never use that would work for him.

Pinetree
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NW Pennsylvania

Aug 10th, 2017 08:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Marshall DFX amps are great.

Have you looked at the Boss Katana 50?




Hammond101
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So. Cal. USA

Aug 10th, 2017 09:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm just not that familiar with those SS combos to give good specific advice. At his age I'd guess he would most enjoy an amp with a clean channel and a shred channel. Of that bunch the Mustang III would seem to be the most usable with all the models it has.

reverend mikey
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Aug 10th, 2017 10:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Another vote for the Mustang III - and you wouldn't really need any pedals with it at this point (if he is indeed just starting to learn).

Texican

Cypress, TX

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Aug 10th, 2017 11:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yet another vote for the Mustang III. Hold off on purchasing the pedals until birthdays and/or Christmas.

reverendrob
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Aug 10th, 2017 11:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd go with one of the new L6 amps, the Katana, or the Mustang.

Something that's both full of various effects for him to play with (and figure out what standalones he might want) and various amp sounds that will be useful.

You *could* ask him though!

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Aug 10th, 2017 11:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My vote for the Boss Katana---very easy to dial in and great cleans and overdrive and reverb and modulation etc.


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Aug 10th, 2017 12:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I put my chips on the Mustang III. It has 100 presets which would probably include something he likes or be close to, and if not room for him to create his own custom presets. It would take him a long way down the road. Play at home, some fun times in a garage, a party or eventually gigs 10 years out. Wish it was around when I started playing. Hope this is helpful.

Tony Wright
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Stillwater, OK

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Aug 10th, 2017 10:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

BbendFender, if we lived close enough, I would drop by and jam a while, then get down to the business of "what amp for the nephew?"

Most of the other advice is exactly what I expected...primarily three of the manufacturers are the most popular...Fender, Marshal and Roland.

Let me explain where I got those amp models in the first place...it has to do with money:

I have a positive balance on my Guitar Center account. I over paid (intentionally) about 6 weeks ago. Thus any purchase I make at a GC is like I get a large discount on...well, I don't have the cash in my wallet, so it must be a "freebie", kinda-sorta...

Several of you discussed multiple presets on most of the modelers mentioned above...and then Reverend Mikey reminded me, "might not need any pedals as a beginner".

Hmmm.

I might pull the trigger this Sunday...or later this next week since I have a sound for hire on Monday...and I might hold off until my next regular pay day.

As for waiting for birthday and/or Christmas...uhh, not for several reasons. Politically with my chief financial officer telling me that I should not buy them anything...of course, I already broke that suggestion by giving the younger brother a bass and amp.

I have given big brother a Squier Strat so it is time to give him an amp to make this "even".

I have not made a decision yet, so if anyone else wants to add their 2 cents, I will be glad to have your advice.

Warren Pederson

Canada

Aug 10th, 2017 11:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I would choose the Peavey Bandit out of that bunch

Mick Reid
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Aug 11th, 2017 02:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If the nephew is not a full-fledged player (yet) another, simpler option may be one of the Roland Cubes. They do a Cube 80XL that would *plenty* loud for any garage band scenario and very straight forward as far as FX and amp models. No LCD screens/menus or software etc.

Whilst the Mustangs and Katana have more flexibility, they could be overwhelming for someone that's still trying to figure out how to actually *play* the instrument before thinking about patches & software and such.

The COSM models in the Cubes are very good as well as having the BOSS algorithms for the various FX.

Also, with the 40XL & 80XL you can add BOSS footswitches later on to control channels, FX and boost.

Just another 2 cents for you...


reverendrob
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Aug 11th, 2017 04:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Bandit would be the last, last thing on the list.

If there's an "amp a kid would shake their head at", that's it.

Tony Wright
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Stillwater, OK

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Aug 11th, 2017 06:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Rev: I don't necessarily disagree, but for the price, I could afford that to find out if he has the tenacity to stick to learning his instrument.

The younger brother is a techno junkie and was already learning songs before he left the house last Sunday. (24 hours)

I have no idea how the older brother is doing since he got his Squier Strat about 90 minutes before we took him home. (He didn't put it down that entire time...he held it in his hands all the way home from meeting the guy from CL to buy the guitar.)

So I have hopes that as they go along, they will spend some quality time learning their chosen instrument.

Mick: I seriously consider the Cubes, but the price is just more than I want to spend. That is not to say that I won't buy one.

Being a gear junky is as bad as being hooked on other stuff....(sigh)


Dolemite

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Aug 11th, 2017 06:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Used Mustang! Check GC used online, a 40w Mustang II is around 100, a 100w Mustang III is around 200. Saw a III for 160..

Mick Reid
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Aug 11th, 2017 07:28 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Mick: I seriously consider the Cubes, but the price is just more than I want to spend."

I know you mentioned the GC credit, but you can find the cube 80's used for reasonable money.


reverendrob
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We all want

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Aug 11th, 2017 07:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

For the youngsters, chances are they have a video game system.

Get them Rocksmith or Rocksmith 2014. It'll be the best thing you can possibly score them.

Tony Wright
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Stillwater, OK

I never met a calorie I didn't like.
Aug 11th, 2017 08:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Rev...I just texted the information to my nephew. Thanks for the heads up.

If he needs help getting that video game, I will help.

Tony Wright
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Stillwater, OK

I never met a calorie I didn't like.
Aug 13th, 2017 09:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Since I am not a guitarist (Bass and PA and Lighting keep me busy) I do not keep up on all the changes in guitar amp models. Someone school me in a paragraph or two:

Why would I want to purchase a Mustang III V2 rather than the Mustang III original.

Obviously, there are some improvements. Worth extra money? What do these improvements do for you? 2 button foot switch or 4 button footswitch?

Bass players (well, OK, me, personally) have enough trouble counting to 4, it's why we/I stand next to the drummer. We/I don't know about the gear you guys with the skinny strings use.

Lenny1716

SoCal, South Bay

Aug 13th, 2017 12:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A comparison....

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