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Therealfrogman
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Aug 10th, 2017 02:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just recieved a neck from an online auction site and the thing is like 1/4 out. I have requested a return but I am just curious. I have done nothing to it except look at it.

I was really looking forward to putting this neck on today! I do not want to have to run to Guitar Center and buy another guitar just because I am really really suffering right now ;)

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Aug 10th, 2017 03:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There's nothing you can do to straighten a propeller twist short of major surgery (e.g., remove the frets and plane the twist out, etc.).

Send the neck back to the vendor and get a refund.

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Aug 10th, 2017 03:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It is firewood. With some necks if they are not too bad you can pull the frets and level the fretboard to make it level again. The instrument would have to have some real value to make it worth the hassle. A set neck Les Paul of the like.

If 1/4 out means 1/4 inch, it truly is firewood.

Therealfrogman
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Okay, I took the sticker off....
Aug 10th, 2017 03:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Peegoo, I figuered as much after a closer look.

hotblooze

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Aug 11th, 2017 03:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Pull the frets out, radius it and refret it with tall frets. It will play as good after a good fret level and crowning.

Therealfrogman
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Okay, I took the sticker off....
Aug 11th, 2017 09:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

hotblooze, the neck is a corkscrew, literally. It is obvious to me that the seller does not look at these things before they get shipped.

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Aug 11th, 2017 12:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here's a good pic of a propeller twist. This one is unrepairable. The neck has to be completely replaced.

On a very expensive guitar, no less.

Therealfrogman
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Okay, I took the sticker off....
Aug 11th, 2017 01:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That's it Peegoo, crept the other way. Pic is too big to upload.


Seller has not replied yet...

I have uploaded a pic from the side.

Side view

(This message was last edited by Therealfrogman at 04:42 PM, Aug 12th, 2017)

Therealfrogman
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Okay, I took the sticker off....
Aug 12th, 2017 02:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here is a pic from the headstock down, seller has gone dark and will not respond.. Glad I dont have allot of money invested.

Headstock

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Aug 12th, 2017 06:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Wow. That's a twist.

If it's Warmoth, Musicraft, USACG or Hefner, they'll make good. Brands like Eden, Saga, etc., are usually sold through distributors, so the customer service is questionable.

Stay on them. Email them pictures.

If they blow you off, feel free to post their name here. You're not asking th4em for a favor. You're asking for the product you paid for.

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Aug 12th, 2017 06:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"If they blow you off, feel free to post their name here."

And everywhere you can. Public shaming is justified in my book with things like this.


FunkyKikuchiyo

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Aug 12th, 2017 07:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yup, refret is the only way to fix it, which will probably exceed whatever you paid for the neck, or at least close. And honestly, I wouldn't want to refret that... it would take a crazy amount of sanding, and might even hit side dots at some point.

Some things can be fixed with other methods... dog tongue, s-curve, too much bow/backbow, but a twist is another animal. Those really only happen when the wood is screwy (no pun intended) and should have not been used to make a neck.

I'd pull out all the stops on trying to return it, filing complaints and so forth. This isn't even close to being within margin of error or determined by taste like finish tint or something.

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Aug 12th, 2017 07:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Even if you do plane out a mild twist and re-fret, the wood sometimes pulls into relief (under string tension) and the twist returns.

Wood has a really good "memory."

Unlike myself :o(

FunkyKikuchiyo

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Aug 12th, 2017 09:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah, I've run into that a few times. I kinda think of it like it is trying to turn around and look at its own backplate.

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Aug 13th, 2017 07:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am convinced some necks think they're still part of a tree and they keep on growing :0)

Therealfrogman
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Okay, I took the sticker off....
Aug 14th, 2017 03:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The seller sent me an RMA label this morning so the neck is on its way back. Now I wait for the other one I bought.



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Aug 14th, 2017 03:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cool!

Glad they did the right thing.

Bubbalou

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Aug 16th, 2017 03:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That is a shame. It is otherwise a beautiful guitar

Therealfrogman
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Okay, I took the sticker off....
Aug 16th, 2017 05:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Got the new neck in (different vendor) Getting towards the end of setup and noticed my B string making a ping sound whenever I did a bend, sounded like it was hitting a burr on a fret.

Well it aint was no burr.... I do not own a set of nut files by the way! So it was the actual string jumping in the nut because I created too wide of a slot.

The good thing is that I am getting much better at finding problems, the bad thing is I am getting much better at creating problems.

I have another nut and I will do it right this time. The nut was preslotted, I was simply bringing the strings down to a playable level for me. Other than that I am having a great time with this one. It has the Duncan hot rails with a coli split and its a great rock guitar that weighs around 6 lbs.

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Aug 17th, 2017 10:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"...The good thing is that I am getting much better at finding problems, the bad thing is I am getting much better at creating problems..."

That could be my one-sentence autobiography.


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