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FDP Forum / Miscellaneous and Non-Fender Topics / Rosewood or Mary Ann?

digiboy

New York City

Aug 22nd, 2017 12:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I guess this might be called a gear post but my question is more about the whole environmental protection thing or whatever it is that brought on all the rosewood hoopla. I thought it was under some kind of restricted use now. Isn't that why Fender is bringing back maple necks to some models and using other alternative woods?

So what about this George Harrison model?

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Suburban MD.

Are your prayer beads maple or rosewood?
Aug 22nd, 2017 02:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Warmoth recently updated their page to say Indian Rosewood was back again:
"WE ARE SHIPPING ROSEWOOD AGAIN!
Warmoth has now obtained all the CITES permits necessary for the export of Indian Rosewood (Dalbergia latifolia) and Kingwood (Dalbergia cearensis). International customers may resume purchasing these species through our web site.

Please be aware: if you are an international customer, you may be required to obtain CITES import permits for these woods. As the importer, it is your responsibility to be informed of and comply with your country’s import requirements. Warmoth Guitar Products, Inc. does not take responsibility for import regulations or fees."

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Pinetree
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NW Pennsylvania

Aug 22nd, 2017 02:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just don't think Telecaster when I think of George Harrison.




Therealfrogman
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Pueblo, Co

Relics produce tone, man.....
Aug 22nd, 2017 03:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There is no maple skunk stripe on that guitar, why would they miss a detail like that? Is maple now endangered?

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Aug 22nd, 2017 03:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Fair enough. But that (final) concert on the roof, where Billy Preston joined them, which was ultimately the "Let it Be" album, is where he really makes the definitive appearance with the rosewood Tele.

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Don't look at me with that tone of voice
Aug 22nd, 2017 03:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

George's Rosewood Telecaster did not have a skunk stripe; the neck was a two-piece, with a separate rosewood fingerboard, unlike the later production models which were one-piece and DID have a maple skunk stripe and headstock plug.

DrKev
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Paris, France

It's just a guitar, not rocket science.
Aug 23rd, 2017 10:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Note that Warmoth's advice on obtaining an import permit might only apply to non-US customers. The situation in the US is that for private sales, it is the exporter, i.e. the person selling across an international border, that must have a permit.

See linked pdf file below for info on Sale and Purchase of instruments by Individuals in the US, starting on page 20.

For non-commercial import and export, i.e. personal or work travel, no documentation is necessary if the total weight of the restricted species involved is less than 22lb/10kg (unless of course brazilian Roserwood is involved which was already restricted under CITES appendix I). That means, assuming a fingerboard weighs 1lb, you can travel with up to 22 guitars without needing an import or export permit.

Questions and Answers re: new Rosewood and Bubinga rules

(This message was last edited by DrKev at 12:43 PM, Aug 23rd, 2017)

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Aug 24th, 2017 05:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'll let you know how it goes.

I just ordered a guitar from the UK which was made in the USA which has rosewood from India and am importing it into Australia.

Our countries gov' dept' handling this told me once i have an export permit from the country to email it to them and they will tell me if i need and import permit.

They did say that since it is highly probable the timber used was the pre cites date of 2017 i will most likely not need an import permit just the export. but we'll see if that pans out

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Aug 24th, 2017 01:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If not for George Harrison's name, this would be just a regular guitar. I'm not spending that much.

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"Everywhere I look, I see guitars..."
Aug 28th, 2017 01:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"If not for George Harrison's name, this would be just a regular guitar. I'm not spending that much."

Isn't that true for any guitar (or any signature guitar)? It's just a guitar with someone's name associated with it. If people want to buy it because of that association (and pay extra) that's their decision.

IOW, I agree with you - it's just a guitar. Sadly, if you want a rosewood Tele from Fender, you have to buy the one with George's name associated with it - and pay a lot more. I'm a big fan of George (more than any other Beatle), but I'm not paying that for the guitar...

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El Californio

Sep 6th, 2017 02:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"If not for George Harrison's name, this would be just a regular guitar. I'm not spending that much."

About 10 yrs ago Gretsch offered a 57 Duo Jet RI for about $1500. I bought one at a good sale price and love it. Not long after, it disappeared... Short while later it reappeared as a rebranded GH - George Harrison Duo Jet for about $1000 more. Same damned guitar.

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