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dayflower

Detroit, MI

Aug 30th, 2017 11:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Looking for recommendations on vinyl production companies. I'm working on home recordings of a set of songs (digital) and want to press less than 50 vinyl copies to offer in addition to digital download.

Anybody work with a great vinyl production company in the past? Or anybody want to point me to a past thread if this has already been discussed?

(This message was last edited by dayflower at 01:48 PM, Aug 30th, 2017)

reverendrob
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Aug 30th, 2017 10:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Expect a few things (I've assisted mastering clients on bigger runs, so can't help with micros):

-You're going to have to master for the medium.
-It's going to be EXPENSIVE - the cost is in the setup far more than the run at the 50 copy realm.
-Expect many delays as the pressing plants are overloaded, and non-priority clients are getting shafted left and right.

This is why so many of the younger bands have switched to cassette, as abysmal as the format is, IMO.

It offers them "physical" copies and analog, without any of the expenses.

dayflower

Detroit, MI

Aug 31st, 2017 08:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ah, yes. I see what you mean. The more I look into it I see how it's always expensive and not well suited to small runs.

I actually like the cassette trend, except--does anyone have a cassette player anymore?? I don't! But there you go--it is like vinyl. You have to invest in the music and the music player.

reverendrob
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Aug 31st, 2017 10:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Depends on your market.

I don't know it, so....

Are other bands/people doing the same type of music doing cassette releases? Are you happy doing so? If so...

Me, I'd never do one, but I hated cassettes when they were current and got a CD player very, very early because of it.


dayflower

Detroit, MI

Sep 4th, 2017 07:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I spent a few years part of the San Francisco folk/indie scene. My fondness for the cassette trend comes from loving those people and how it's something many of them do.

It's not really my speed for this project, though. My audience at this point is a handful of loyal fans, mostly from Michigan and SF. I'm working on a set of American primitive guitar pieces. I recently bought my first quality turntable and have started collecting my favorite artists on vinyl. Just have the vinyl bug right now.

reverendrob
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Sep 4th, 2017 07:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The cassette was the staple of the no-wave/experimental home recording night at my favorite place in Chicago in the 90s, but it was just the only game in town at the time realistically.

Vinyl pressings were cheap then but the quality sucked, and CDs were just infeasible at the time due to the up-front costs.

For me, vinyl is something I love when it was something made for it, but in this day and age of "It's going to be mastered and recorded digitally anyway", I don't see much of a point.

For weird music, 24/96+ FLAC is the way to go.

Cal-Woody

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Sep 4th, 2017 10:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a question, this is all hypothetical, but would mastering a digital recording to tape, using a tubed preamp, give the music some of the same ambience? I know it's an odd question but would it gain some of the attributes that were heard on old recordings?
I thought maybe that if the digital recording was ran through a tubed preamp, that some of the dynamics would be enhanced by doing this.
In my heart, I know that what has been previously recorded is probably already set, but I thought that maybe sending the DAW master into the tubed preamp then sent to the tape mastered recorder, might give it some of the lost dynamics, then burn that mix to CD, thus getting a more lively feel.
I think it might be redundant to maybe do it this way, but it would be fun to try and see if it brings out something that may have been lost by staying totally digital. If it works, I want the patent!!!
Just food for thought.. ....

reverendrob
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Sep 5th, 2017 02:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Master it right in digital, and you *gain* nothing switching formats.

Achase4u

U.S. - Virginia

Sep 5th, 2017 07:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cal,

This is actually a regular practice with modern music, believe it or not. Many pro studios have lots of tube gear and a tape machine or two. Eric Valentine recorded "Give You Hell" to tape then went into pro tools with it. That still has a modern sound to me.

I run mixes through my Sebatron Axis 200 from time to time. The difference, unless I slam it, is pretty subtle. It's good, but it doesn't take me back to the 50s or anything. Though many times it does sound "good".

If dynamics are lost, it's because of inferior equipment or intentional compression. The dynamics can't be brought back(save for some of the plugins that claim to un-compress). Those old records had great dynamics because the players played well, and compression many times was just a db or 2 in gain reduction(Al Schmitt style). A tube preamp will, if anything, reduce the dynamic range(but doubtful if it's being used correctly)Same with tape. The sort of built in compression they have is sort of unique.

In fact, if you have a song in mind for this treatment, drop box me the highest quality version you can and I will run it through the Sebatron and you can be the judge. I have a two track machine but it's not really up for the task currently.

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