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Mick Reid
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Apr 7th, 2018 04:12 PM   Edit   Profile  

"...I did love my Roland Blues Cube Artist btw...it was one of the best amps I've owned. If had the effects that the Kat has, I would never have sold it...ever."

Funny, that's the exact reason I bought the BC Artist and *not* a Katana!

I don't want 1000 different amps & FX inside the amp.
I prefer my pedalboard into the amp, but that's just me.


willie
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Too Near Atlanta GA

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Apr 8th, 2018 07:08 AM   Edit   Profile  

I find pedals to be largely dust collectors...I like to keep it simple, use the high quality on- board effects, and let the guitar and whatever talent and ability I have left do the rest. I got tired of lugging pedals, pedal boards, power supplies etc, and having to clean around them in the studio...PITA. :-) Different strokes....

Edit:Oh, and I forgot to add that I was able to sell my acoustic amp as the Katana does such a great job with its acoustic setting which put some serious cash back in my pocket...hard not to like the Kat series.

w

(This message was last edited by willie at 10:39 AM, Apr 8th, 2018)

Cal-Woody

USA/California

Why do I keep fixing things that work?
Apr 8th, 2018 09:27 AM   Edit   Profile  

So, without looking up the Katana Artist, does it have the same layout as the regular Katana; I.E.: preamp selection? (Acoustic/electric guitar preamp section)
It is very encouraging to hear Willie's and other standard Katana owners, sharing their delight over the current offerings on that amp. If so, then maybe the upcharge for the Artist version would be more desirable!
I know the Waza Craft effects are Boss's flagship products and to include them into a complete package in an amp would be very desirable.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and hope to hear more about your new amp as you become more familiar with it.
Woody

iknowjohnny

usa

Apr 11th, 2018 10:31 AM   Edit   Profile  

Cal, the artist is basically the same as the 100 with the following exceptions. the speaker of course, which i really think is great. The bigger and very nicely buit cab, the cab resonance on the front panel rather than in boss tone studio app only, and lastly they supposedly revoiced it bit for the different cab and speaker. Actually there are some other minor things like it has a 5 pin midi jack which is exclusive to the artist and the regular kat in head form. Speaker jacks like the head. Maybe a few other minor things can't think of off hand. But you really have to play all the katanas to get a feel for them but to me the artist was the only one that when i demo'd it i immediately felt it had potential. The others i disliked right off. Problem with modelers tho is they have so much potential to sound great or bad you never know what you can get out of them in a demo or if what u r hearing is even remotely close to it;s best potential or worse. In the store it might sound bad because the cab resonance is set in a place thats too bright or soft and you have no idea because it is set in software. At guitar center especially the floor demo models are very likely to have been purchased then returned, and the person may very likely have set things in software like the global EQ or cab resonance that renders the amp horrible sounding. I plugged into a 50 once that was so bright it was much too bright with the treble on ZERO ! I trust someone bought it and set something in boss tone studio really bright.

Anyways, at this point i feel the artist is good because it's cab and speaker are not going to be limitations or add undesirable details you cannot seem to dial out. With the control you have in software there is potential to get what you want from it. It DOES have a certain inherent tone, and in fact one i don't care for. But i was able to dial that out completely to the point i can get a more generic dirt sound rather than the very marshallesque sound it inherently has. It's all in there via software, but beware that only a tiny fraction of whats available tonally is available via the front panel only. So if you don';t hook it to PC and use boss tone studio you may not find what you want in the amp. But once you do you can save that sound to the amp and never use the PC app again if you don't care to.

Anyways, the differences either are or aren't huge between the artist and 100 combos depending entirely on what YOU feel. I will however say that how you feel can only be valid after you have used it long enough to explore all possibilities because till then you really can't know what the potential is. I wasn't real happy with it at first, but now i've found ways to achieve tones that are exactly what i always try and get from any amp i own and with the tonal quality and touch responsiveness the artist does do well. But don't be deceived by the simple front panel. Like any modeler you may well have to spend a lot of time to find what works for you, and that can be tiring. Thats the downside of having a zillion options. The only difference with the kats is they APPEAR simple. They aren't....the difference is it doesn't have a LCD and you have to go to a PC app to access 99% of the potential, no exaggeration. Hope that helps.

Anyways, my feeling about the amp is the speaker is a fantastic one and the cab gives to a more neutral sound that won't limit the amp's potential, and having the cab resonance on the front panel is a huge benefit which becomes apparent after you own it for a while and after having finally found my sound (which by the way was not quick to say the least !) i feel that the amp is probably my fav non tube amp i have ever played thru and what i am getting now is quite droolworthy. I don't think i could have gotten what i want out of the other combos because of the cab and speaker limitations not to mention the value of the cab res on the panel. Whether it's worth it to you is impossible to say. For me, definitely. YMMV...

(This message was last edited by iknowjohnny at 01:42 PM, Apr 11th, 2018)

archiestone
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Apr 11th, 2018 12:14 PM   Edit   Profile  

^ My eyes hurt now. ^

One thing's for sure: when toggling between models and fx the equalizer and vol controls are your friends. You simply can't keep settings fixed from Clean to Brown & through boosts and drives; Tweaking is required.

willie
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Too Near Atlanta GA

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Apr 15th, 2018 08:48 AM   Edit   Profile  

Loving the new Kat Artist...I could not be more pleased with it.

w

zenland

U.S.A. Hotlanta

avise la fin
Apr 19th, 2018 08:28 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've been reading this thread since it started and had an interest in a grab and go type amp. Was checking out some LP's ( 5 months ago?) and used the Katana 50. Very pleased with the tones and thought well, maybe down the road this would be a good purchase.

It was! Got it yesterday and sat in with a friends band last night.
I was asked to turn down (lol) and was only on the 25 watt setting.

Really liked that I could take everything in and out in one trip (amp/effects/guitar). I brought some effects pedals and power supply but, they were not needed. It was quite liberating to just work the volume knob!

This has definitely become my grab n go to amp!
Very Happy!







willie
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Too Near Atlanta GA

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Apr 20th, 2018 03:29 PM   Edit   Profile  

Et tu zen? LOL...the 50 is a winner, as is the 100 and I just received the Kat 100 Artist the other day and have been more than amazed at the tone and versatility of the amp. It is most certainly heavier than the Kat 50 or Kat 100 1x12 but since it doesn't get moved much, I'm not concerned with that...plus it's still lighter than most of the tube amps I've had to wrangle. Welcome to the dark side. :)

w

vomer
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Apr 21st, 2018 08:24 AM   Edit   Profile  

zenland, did you hear about the version 2 software? It gives you two more channel presets. Can be downloaded from Boss for free.

zenland

U.S.A. Hotlanta

avise la fin
Apr 21st, 2018 12:23 PM   Edit   Profile  

willie-lol. Yep, I've gone to the dark side but I'm not giving up any of my tube amps. Also, still liking my Helix unit with the powered monitor.

vomer-I re read the whole thread before I made my post and saw someone had mentioned version 2. I hadn't thrown the card board out yet and it had version 2 written on the side of the box. When I got home with it I immediately went to the site and downloaded that from Boss.

Going to order the foot switch soon.

Thanks for the GAS folks!

👍👍

Graywolf/Wa

Pacific N.W.

Apr 25th, 2018 09:14 PM   Edit   Profile  

OK, stupid question. Is the Katana 50 easy enough to use for an old geezer? Interested in Fender like as well as Voxish tones, little drive and maybe some reverb for both single coil and hb guitars. Not interested in hi-gain sounds. Will it work for that WITHOUT having to hook up to a pc? Seems to have features that appeal to me and might work well as a bedroom amp. What say the owners?


vomer
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Apr 26th, 2018 02:49 AM   Edit   Profile  

I would have been interested in amp models rather than what seems to be different gain levels of the same basic sound. So you don't get 'Fender' or 'Vox' settings. What you do get on the control panel is a choice of 'clean' and 'crunch' settings which would meet your gain needs. Also on the panel are the usual amp settings, gain, volume, another master volume, bass, mid and treble, and rotary controls for the preset overdrive, delay/modulation, and reverb.

So yes, very easily usable straight out of the box for anyone who doesn't want to plug it into the computer. And has 'standby' which turns the speaker sound off, .5 watts low power, and headphones.

So despite the lack of different models it's a good basic sound. If you really needed to emulate specific amp tones, one of the pedals on the market might be the way to go.

I've never had a modern solid state or modelling amp before, never expected to, but this sounds good.

(This message was last edited by vomer at 04:50 AM, Apr 26th, 2018)

Pinetree
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NW Pennsylvania

Apr 26th, 2018 07:47 AM   Edit   Profile  

Now you can

cover it up.

Leftee
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VA

Apr 26th, 2018 08:23 AM   Edit   Profile  

That's a decent price for a cover.

vomer
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Broke Down

in the Brassicas
Apr 26th, 2018 08:46 AM   Edit   Profile  

But I just paid someone to relic mine ;-)

Leftee
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Apr 26th, 2018 09:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

Keep that relic job pristine!!!

Graywolf/Wa

Pacific N.W.

May 8th, 2018 03:01 PM   Edit   Profile  

Stopped by the local guitar shop yesterday and tried the 50 version yesterday, played with it about 15 minutes and took it up to the counter to put a deposit on it. Will pick it up next payday. Nice cleans but still not wild about many of the overdrive sounds...will need to mess around when I get it home and see if I can get some smoother drive out of it. That half watt setting is going to get a lot of use.


BobbyMac
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Don't look at me with that tone of voice
May 8th, 2018 08:05 PM   Edit   Profile  

I pre-ordered the cover from MF for my Katana 100 head. Only $14.99 shipped!

6 Cylinder Slim

north woods

It just needs more voltage
Jul 5th, 2018 10:47 AM   Edit   Profile  

Me too, need a cover. I bought a Kat 50 for some of the, let's just say more intimate, gigs I've been playing lately. Glad I did. This is a good sounding amp and having built in effects comes in handy for me playing smaller, quieter venues. I bought this amp over similar amps purely because I liked the sound. But I don't care for top control panels because I tip my amps back on stage. I stumbled across something I think is useful for this amp so I'll pass it along. Most amp stands are big and clunky and tip the amp back too far to see the top panel. I happened to have little On Stage A frame guitar stand in my living room. The Kat 50 sits firmly in that guitar stand and tips back, I'll guess about 25 degrees. That's not ideal sound wise, but it's a whole lot better than square to the floor and...you can still see the control panel.

A frame stand

vomer
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fast women
Jul 6th, 2018 05:12 AM   Edit   Profile  

Greywolf, or anyone else, how are you getting on with the overdrive sounds? I play mostly 'clean but driven' and I haven't been too impressed with the OD's, the longer I spend with it. Mostly I'm using the clean channel. On the 25W setting for 'quiet' practice, with backing tracks through the hifi, there's a nice body to the sound which means I haven't been using OD much. The .5W setting is too quiet for this. And OD from the gain control is better than the OD control imho. At least I think they are different, from the gain control it's slightly smoother.

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