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larryguitar19
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Sep 4th, 2017 10:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Every so often I do the Buckethead thing so I"m thinking of installing one on a Tele or a Stat.

I had done the same thing before I heard BH by accident when I was messing with the controls. But I never thought of making it the signature lick until BH took it to the next level.

I was wondering if anybody had tried it on a Tele or Stat and their thoughts.

(This message was last edited by larryguitar19 at 12:24 AM, Sep 5th, 2017)

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Sep 5th, 2017 09:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The quickest way to install a kill switch is to just install a normally open push-button switch on the signal wire of the output jack that sends the signal to ground. The down side is that the action of the switch is in reverse to what I'd like and that would be a push button that makes signal when pressed.

To get what I want, you need an additional toggle switch to reroute signal to the switch so its normally out of the signal path in regular non-kill switch) mode.

There is also the chance that using the switch could result in static pops. Someone here might know of a cap value that would reduce popping.

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Sep 5th, 2017 10:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

larryguitar19, it's certainly an easy mod. Just a matter of whether you like that effect and think you would use it. Parts easily available on eBay (link).

wrnch, I am confused. Sounds like you want a reverse kill switch?? Under what circumstances would this be useful? Do you just want a momentary switch or a latching switch?

You can do a "momentary on" effect with a NO (normally open) push button switch -- just solder one lug to the lead coming from the volume control and the other lug to the jack hot lead. This doesn't ground the signal, though, so it could be noisy.

Best way would be to wire things normally, then add a NC (normally closed) push button momentary switch wired between the hot and ground lugs of the output jack.

But maybe I am misunderstanding what you are seeking.

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(This message was last edited by Te 52 at 03:08 PM, Sep 5th, 2017)

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Sep 6th, 2017 11:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A momentary push button allows for rapid action -- machine gun.
A regular N.O. momentary pushbutton is the simplist mod. Just wire it to the output jack to ground. It'll kill the output any time its pressed.
However if you want the output to be "ON" when the button is pressed, you need to redirect the output to the N.C. (signal to ground) pushbutton via a toggle switch.
It just seems more intuitive to me that rather than a "kill" switch, it would be better to have a Signal On pushbutton. Like when you tap your fingers; people noramally hit the beat of the music when their fingers actually hit the steering wheel.
Leave it to me to make an easy idea complicated. But then toggles aren't designed for rapid movement and a momentary pushbutton would probably deal with abuse better.

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Sep 6th, 2017 01:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A standard Les Paul style PU switch and wiring does this real well. Turn off the volume on one PU and you got it.

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Sep 6th, 2017 06:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

wrnch, if I understand correctly, the linked ciruit is what you want. In "NORM" mode, it's a regular guitar. In "KILL" mode, the signal shuts off, but turns on whenever the momentary NC pushbutton switch is pressed. Do I have that right?

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Sep 6th, 2017 07:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Random neuron firing re wrnch's idea: Perhaps you could also make the mode switch a momentary switch that you could operate with your thumb or heel of the hand, with the reverse kill switch close by enough that it could be tapped with a fingertip.

Then when you let go of everything, you're instantly back to a normal guitar.

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Sep 7th, 2017 08:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sanity is relative

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Sep 7th, 2017 08:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes I've figured it out on the LP and been doing it for a couple years. I can do it 'okay' but I haven't been able to do it with even speed of a machine gun sound I"m going for.

That's what got me to thinking on this. I think I"ll go ahead on try in on one of the Teles and see how it goes.

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Sep 15th, 2017 07:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

lots of options here:

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