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walshb
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Nov 8th, 2017 02:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You may have found this already, a possible alternative in case you can't find an Axe Balancer (I couldn't either.)

make your own?

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Nov 8th, 2017 01:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi Kart
I forgot to put a smiley thing after my remark.
No offence intended.

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Nov 8th, 2017 02:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Get a Royal Crown bag fill it with an appropriate amont of pennies and tie a loop, hang it on the strap button between the strap and guitar.

Or you can find a tanned bull bag and do the same thing, might have to take a trip to Mexico to find one though. Or a set of brass ones I see hanging off the trailer hitch of pickup trucks “o)

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Nov 8th, 2017 06:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Tie a large helium balloon to the headstock :o)

Add a scuba weight to the tail end of your strap.

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Nov 8th, 2017 09:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'll try the helium. Thanks Peegoo

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Nov 28th, 2017 06:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I seem to remember another solution years ago, which was an extended upper strap button, maybe a couple of inches long? Those who used them said they worked. A bit more elegant than adding weights, but I can`t remember what they were called.

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Nov 28th, 2017 07:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have two axe balancers. They're called arms. ;)

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Nov 28th, 2017 04:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Tough crowd tonight!

davywhizz
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Dec 20th, 2017 04:05 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No, really, what was the other option for axe balancing? I can't stop thinking about it (OK maybe most of the time I can). A two or three inch long upper strap button. If I needed some axe balancing I'd prefer that to hanging weights off the other end. I'm sure the extended strap pins were available commercially some years ago.

Te 52

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Dec 20th, 2017 11:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've thought about mounting a strap button on an extendable cello end pin, but I've never done it.

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Dec 20th, 2017 11:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That`s the idea, but there are cheaper home-made options - a strap button on a much longer screw with some metal tube or washers to increase the length. Any screw needs to go deeper into the wood of the guitar than a normal strap button screw, to cope with the greater strain on a longer pin. I know there used to be a commercially made, quite elegant extended strap button, though I haven`t seen them for a long time.

(This message was last edited by davywhizz at 01:42 PM, Dec 20th, 2017)

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Dec 20th, 2017 12:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ned Steinberger offered a steel yoke that extended the strap mounting position on his early small basses and guitars. See linked pic for a more recent version of that.

It would be really simple to fab up a yoke using 3/4" x 1/8" steel bar to fit a specific guitar. The piece would have little brackets on it that are drilled to accept the stock strap button screws, so the mod would not be permanent and no new holes would be drilled in the guitar. The top of the yoke would have an extended arm to mount the strap on the end.

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Dec 20th, 2017 12:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Something like

this

davywhizz
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Dec 20th, 2017 01:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Very clever Mr Goo!

Te 52

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Dec 20th, 2017 02:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The thing I like about the cello endpin idea is that the rod on which the strap button would be mounted slides in and out. That's just the way cello and bass endpins work, when the rod is out it's secured with a thumbscrew. You'd have to have a long-ish hole drilled into the body to accomodate the rod when it was not deployed. Best suited for a home-built or custom build.

If the extension stays out permanently, it's somewhat vulnerable and the instrument may not fit in a standard case.

(This message was last edited by Te 52 at 04:04 PM, Dec 20th, 2017)

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Dec 23rd, 2017 03:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes, I like the cello pin idea, but it means a significant hole in the guitar plus any further modifications to fix the thumbscrew mechanism to the body. Peegoo's yoke idea is neat in not needing any permanent changes to the guitar. The longer strap pins I saw advertised long ago (really wish I could remember the name and seller) only needed a screw deeper into the guitar than usual to take the extra side to side strain on the pin.

We're only talking a couple of inches in pin length to make a big difference to the neck dive by shifting the balance, but it's a good point about not fitting in some cases if it's fixed semi-permanently.

Te 52

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Dec 23rd, 2017 10:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"...it means a significant hole in the guitar plus any further modifications to fix the thumbscrew mechanism to the body..."

The way cello and upright bass endpins work is that the wood bushing that holds the thumbscrew and tail gut is tapered and is wedged into a tapered hole in the body. No fasteners required, but you do need a large specialty reamer to bore that tapered hole.

As I said, this is an idea more suited to a custom build than a modification to an existing instrument. Next time I build an electric bass I might try it, though.

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Dec 23rd, 2017 12:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hmmm thinking about this further, we could incorporate Dunlop Straploks into the steel bracket. That way it would be removable from the guitar.

The guitar would fit in its original case. Pop it on and pop it off.

The recessed receiver type Straplok would work best:

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Dec 24th, 2017 03:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Or just make a longer strap pin with a connector on the end to fit the recessed receiver?

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Dec 24th, 2017 02:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That would work!

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