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Leftee
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Fear the Klinkhammer
Nov 15th, 2017 01:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I’ve actually corresponded with two companies (Tradition and Michael Kelly) about the pot situation. It was total news to them. Not sure if they changed their setup.

reverend mikey
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Nov 15th, 2017 02:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The easiest solution to the potentiometer issue is to use right-handed pots and wire them accordingly. This means the pots will turn the "opposite" way on lefty guitars (from what is natural, or "mirror image" to right-handed guitar controls), but this has never been an issue for me - I've been wiring my guitars this way for 20 years.

It's especially critical when they want to use push pull pots for advanced wiring - I don't thing ANYONE makes lefty sweep potentiometers with push-pull pots attached to them.

woody
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Nov 15th, 2017 02:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Good review. Love Trampas green. Apparently the guy that stains the guitars at PRS is named Trampas. He mixed the color and they named it after him.

Have fun with your new guitar.

Leftee
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Fear the Klinkhammer
Nov 15th, 2017 02:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What’s interesting is that lefty import guitars are wired wrong. MIM, MIK. Chinese. Whatever. MIA is done right. At least in my experience.

LeftyMeister

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Nov 15th, 2017 03:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My Epi LP Custom Pro has lefty pots that work the way they're supposed to work.

Leftee
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Fear the Klinkhammer
Nov 15th, 2017 04:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"My Epi LP Custom Pro has lefty pots that work the way they're supposed to work."

That's awesome!

My Les Paul and the AmStd Strat I had a few years back both came with righty pots wired righty.

I've rewired all my other guitars except for my semi-hollow Ibanez. I haven't got a round tuit.

LeftRightOut
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Nov 16th, 2017 12:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

all the guitars i've owned even custom shop fenders came wired wrong they're either on or off. i've switched out all pots

except my gibson les paul traditional but it has linear taper pots so if you wire them left or right they work.

and yes mikey noone makes lefty taper push pull. if i was going to get one of these (still might) i'd change pots out and put in a toggle switch

reverend mikey
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Nov 16th, 2017 07:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I did a little more A/B/C testing with the PRS and a couple of my other humbucker loaded guitars last night, just to see how it compared.

The comparison showed the 85/15 pickups to be somewhat bright - I don't know if this is the pots they use (probably 500K ohm) or just inherent in these pickups. They also seem a little weak on the low strings. In a thread over in the Misc. Forum, Peegoo sings their praises, but I'm not in love with them (again, compared to a couple other sets of humbuckers, one of which is/are a DiMarzio 36th Anniversary set, so nothing really "custom" or high end).

So if I were to keep the PRS SE, I'd eventually want to swap out pickups and pots with a new wiring scheme - I think a 5-way switch would be more interesting than the current coil taps (and this is what is on a lot of USA PRS guitars).

But I don't have the luxury of time right now to be rewiring guitars... and as I mentioned previously, I feel like for over $800 on a Korean guitar, I shouldn't have to "fix" the incorrectly wired pots. So this will be going back sometime in the next few days/next week.

It is a well built guitar - the neck feels great (don't know how to describe the profile, Eric, but it's comfortable on the thin side of medium), and the fretwork is certainly as good as any I've seen on a production guitar. But it doesn't tick all the boxes for the investment of $$. Someone else will love it, I'm sure.



Leftee
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Fear the Klinkhammer
Nov 16th, 2017 07:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

How does the neck compare to the SG?

I don’t blame you. At that price I’d have to love everything about the guitar to go ahead and fix the wiring myself.

My personal line for a mod platform these days is somewhere under $400.

reverend mikey
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Nov 16th, 2017 08:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hard to compare with the old memory banks, but as I recall, the SG had more shoulder on its profile. This one is more C shaped, I guess, but not a V or slight V by any means. Definitely a smaller neck than the SG, though.



LeftyMeister

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Nov 16th, 2017 03:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mike, are you planning to let PRS know the reason you're returning the guitar? If they're gonna make lefties, they should at least make true lefties. They might like to know.

reverend mikey
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Nov 16th, 2017 04:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I will tell the sales rep at Sweetwater to pass on the reason to PRS - then it's up to him whether he does that or not. But it is the reason for the return.

Someone (like the left-handed employee of PRS [!] that demoed these on the PRS demo video) should have flagged these and said, "Hey, this is unacceptable!"

LeftyMeister

Buckeye Country, USA

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Nov 16th, 2017 05:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Good point!

Texican

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Nov 17th, 2017 02:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mikey, excellent review and thanks for curing any GAS that I may have had. With everything that's going in my life right now, I should be downsizing the herd, not expanding it.

Leftee
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Fear the Klinkhammer
Nov 17th, 2017 05:57 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have to believe PRS knows better. When they outsourced the model for the SE line they simply failed to follow up on this. And the builder wires the pots wrong for all his lefty products no matter who he’s making them for.

Like I mentioned... I corresponded (actual back and forth) with two companies about this issue. I don’t know if either took action based on that.

reverend mikey
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Nov 21st, 2017 09:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The guitar went back today. Kudos to Sweetwater, they paid for the return shipping - I wasn't expecting that; just assumed it would be my responsibility.

They did have one of their "techs" call me before they approved the return, which I thought was a little condescending, and therefore slightly irritating.

But I patiently explained to him (since he seemed clueless) about many companies using "righty" pots, but wiring them left-handed, essentially creating on-off switches with little or no gradual "sweep" in tone or volume. I asked him more than once to please pass this on to PRS, as I felt it was unacceptable on a guitar in this price range, and they should know better.

Don't know if that will get relayed, but that's not my problem anymore.

I told him it was a very nice guitar, with excellent build, but they blew it on the electronics. Within 10 seconds I had the return authorization prepaid UPS tag in my e-mail box (and he did ask which I preferred, Fed-Ex or UPS).

Leftee
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Nov 22nd, 2017 06:05 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sweetwater is top-notch. I do get annoyed with the phone calls though. I usually don’t want to talk to someone about a purchase.

reverend mikey
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N of I-90, E of I-29

You're old. Then vintage. Then good!
Nov 22nd, 2017 07:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah, it's like looking at a new/used car (or gear); you usually know more about it than the sales person (except in rare cases).

Also - I realized last night that Sweetwater will probably deduct the cost of return shipping from my refund...we'll see. So maybe they don't deserve kudos for "free return shipping."

Leftee
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Nov 22nd, 2017 07:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yep! The last time I bought a guitar from them my rep was clueless about the lefty world.

It was that AmStd Strat.

LeftyMeister

Buckeye Country, USA

Motorcycles, Guitars, and Golf
Nov 22nd, 2017 10:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's the plight of us lefties. How many times do we have the opportunity to try before we buy?

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