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hushnel
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Nov 30th, 2017 12:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I usually don’t experience intimidation, but I wonder if I can even hold a bass in the presence of this guy with out being paralyzed “o)

Other than my early classic training, pre-teen, I’ve only learned by copying others and improvising. I’ve kind of been in the same place for awhile now, I’m thinking this will shake me up.

Bass Camp

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Nov 30th, 2017 01:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, if you're gonna get humbled, who better to do the job?

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Nov 30th, 2017 02:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, their’s a few of them, the first time I listen to Victor was back in the 80s, what amazed me as much as his crazy skill was how he could drop right back into the pocket with a solid traditional bass line.

I’ve already given my wife a heads up about this, and she agrees I should do it, my brother and two of his sons live in the Nashville area. Never spent much time there. It’s about time I visit the place.

So, fretless or frets, home made or store bought, certainly have to drag the funky cigar box and the 40 watt battery powered Rumble “o)

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Nov 30th, 2017 04:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Go for it! I attended one years ago when I had picked up the bass for only a couple of years, It's humbling but you learn and take away soooo much!!!

edmonstg

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Nov 30th, 2017 06:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Go to the camp, play the way you play, have fun.

Don't try and do Victor. It's already being done.

Do you.

George

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Nov 30th, 2017 07:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

George, I’m 100% in agreement with that. Even as a youngster I was conscious of finding my own sound and style. I didn’t want to parrot anyone. I did learn specific bass lines and gained an uneducated understanding of modes and scales.

I can’t do Victor, even if I wanted to, the radial head in my right arm was fused back in the mid 70s from a 72 foot fall. That was the first time I was told I’d never play again. My right arm is about 50% paralized too, broke my neck in the late 70s, that was the second time I was told I’d never play again. Then in 2012 I crushed six bones in my left wrist, that was the third time the Doc said I was done as a musician. I’m still kicking bass, but I do have limitations in some techniques.

Being pushed out of my comfort zone and maybe pick up a new direction from a phenominal musician who may have some insight into my skills, is more of what I hope to gain.

Through out my career my intention has always been to service the song, to lock the band into the groove. I’m comfortable with who I am and my skills, I just don’t have a clue on how to take it to the next level, if their is one for me “o)

If all else fails I’ll still have a blast. I don’t think I’ve ever been in a conversation with more than one, at the most two, bass players at a time, a whole group of them sitting around an evening camp fire will be an experience of a whole different kind. I’m kind of curious in how I‘lI react, I usually don’t intimidate easily, but this dude can play. I make friends easily, it’ll be fun. I hope I can pull it off.

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

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Dec 1st, 2017 11:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Great post, hushnel. I admire you.

I am also a friend of Bill W. 32 years.

George



hushnel
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Dec 1st, 2017 01:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ya got 10 years on me brother “o)

I just finished watching Chasing Trane. Another one who turned around and found life, then spent his giving it back as a musician.

I seriously can’t imagine life with out the sound track of musicians doing their thing, or me not being a part of it. Playing music is humbling and exhilarating.



edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

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Dec 2nd, 2017 02:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

YESSSSSSS!!

George

(This message was last edited by edmonstg at 04:07 PM, Dec 2nd, 2017)

hushnel
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Feb 1st, 2018 12:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, this is going to happen, I just sent in my registration form and the payment, recieved confirmation.

So, I know I can’t impress, nor do I want to, anyone with which bass I bring, so I’ll go with my home made stuff, mostly. I’ll bring a trio, The Good, The Bad and The Ugly “o) I’ll have one the recent homemade basses for signatures, could add a modicum of value to it “o)

And a cool tent!

The Pyramid âo)

hushnel
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Apr 12th, 2018 01:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

One month and counting, well 32 days. I decided to take the short scale fretless based on the 51 P-Bass single coil pick up. Took the body over to Laurie, my next door neighbor, who does auto paint out of his workshop. Same color, I never clear coated it and it’s gotten a bit grungy. He’ll re-paint and lightly clear coat it.

I’ll put it back together and take it for signatures, Victor and the instructors on the front, those I meet and have fun with will sign the back. Upon my return I’ll pull it apart again and have Lourie do a couple more clear coats, to protect the signatures.

I’ve finally gotten were I can read the bass clef and how it corresponds to the finger board, which allows me to extrapolate the treble clef to a degree, so I should at least be able to follow if written music is part of the lesson plans..

I’m making this a longish trip, visiting with my brother and nephews in Nashville, following the Delta Blues Trail, visiting Dockery Farms, and Muscle Shoals, and The guy who runs the Allman Brothers Band Museum told me to stop by and visit. A long story.

Surf Green for signatures

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May 30th, 2018 09:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had a blast, hanging with Chuck Rainey was so very cool, a great person who’s seen the evolution of the instrument and style. Victor and his staff of instructors are skilled teachers making sure everyone is still on the page as they progress through the lesson plans.

The very first evening after dinner, lobster by the way, Victor required us to solo, alone, one by one. This did a couple of things that I considered genious. Getting the intimidation of playing in front of a couple of the worlds best electric bassist out of the way and creating a kind of brothers in arms thing among the attendees by having us all deal with this the first day, in the hour and a half we had before we assembled after our meal. It also gave the teaching staff insight into our personal strengths and weaknesses.

The weakest and least experienced students were treated with great respect and patience. Could we treat them any less, it set the tone of the week and it was extremely civilized. The wankers were shot down in class immediately. With a simple “turn your volume off” or ‘Stop Playing” this to, was mentioned on the first days assembly.

I know how weak my understanding of bass is, I learned much of that, is not knowing the language of “Music” it was pointed out to me by all the instructors that I mostly knew it and they explained it in the language of the Feral Bassists like me “o). There is an awful lot I don’t know, mostly functions and theory of chords and associated modes. Some permutations of fingering patterns that I need to work on and a better knowledge of my finger board, I can find every note on the board but I don’t know them instantaneously. I can play up and down the fingerboard hitting all the notes but if asked to just point them out I have to think about it.

It’s been 11 days since I left Wootenwoods, I spent three days demonstrating and teaching at the Florida Folk Festival, and everyday I’m working on what I need to do to progress as a bassist. Last night was my first rehersal in the three weeks since I’ve been gone. I could tell a difference in my playing, I’m not sure the others did but they already think I’m a great bassist. As always, I don’t care about that, my intention is to service the song, and enjoy doing it.

(This message was last edited by hushnel at 11:55 AM, May 30th, 2018)

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May 30th, 2018 10:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That sounds cool, especially the efforts to include and encourage the less-experienced. It sounds like you learned a lot and I hope you can successfully integrate this new knowledge into your playing. It sounds like it is already making a difference.

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May 30th, 2018 11:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks, it’s really the simplest stuff that makes the biggest difference. Victor made a pretty good point saying the groove is more importaint than the notes, he explained that the most common mistake is hitting a wrong note then loosing the groove trying to find the right one. Play through the wrong note with out missing a beat and move on. I kind of already knew this but being more aware is the whole thing makes it natural. He had some very cool exercises that proved his point.

Realistically it could take me the rest of my life perfecting the knowledge he gave me the keys too. Improvement is the goal as is not being overwhelmed by the volume of information. Brick by brick builds the foundation.


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May 30th, 2018 04:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Hushnel

That sounds like a wonderful time.

It has given me a bit to think about too.

:)

digiboy

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May 30th, 2018 05:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That must have been a great experience. Wish I had the ca$h to pay for those kind of workshops. Sounds like you came away with a lot, a time you will probably never forget. Well worth it.

"Victor made a pretty good point saying the groove is more important than the notes, he explained that the most common mistake is hitting a wrong note then loosing the groove trying to find the right one. Play through the wrong note with out missing a beat and move on."

Funny how well that ties in with some things we've been saying over at wrnchbndr's thread asking about technique.

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May 30th, 2018 06:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

When I first started playing bass, 1963, there was only one note that would work at any given time. The longer I played it seemed that more options presented themselves. In the last 10 years or so I realized just about any note would work, as long as it was in the scale/mode, though I didn’t have any clear understanding as to what modes are until this last few weeks.

$1,000,.00 is a lot of money. I don’t spend that kind of money on things like vacations or other, what I think of as frivolous entertainment. I figured if I was to visit Nashville, get a room and feed myself for a week it would have cost more than $1,000. And I wouldn’t have learned much or had a very good time. the experiance I had at Bass and Nature camp was worth much more than $1,000. I’ll sell off a bass, or maybe make a few instruments to sell to attend this event again. Depending on how focused I’ll be towards learning what I’ve been exposed too.

Thinking about going again will help keep me focused, I surely wouldn’t want to attend another if I couldn’t exhibit some serious improvement, even though it was a total blast just being there.

I built this bass and had all the teachers and staff sign the front and the attendees sign the back and sides.

My souvenir fixed link

(This message was last edited by hushnel at 10:27 PM, Jun 9th, 2018)

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