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FDP Forum / Fender Amps: 1985 - Current / 65 PRRI tone settings?

Tony F

Long Island, NY

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Dec 8th, 2017 08:25 AM   Edit   Profile  

Trying to find the sweet spot on the PRRI at moderate volumes. We all know this amp comes alive at higher volumes but at lower volumes it's a bit bright with my strat. I'm always experimenting with the bass & treble knobs and would love to hear from other owners how they set them to pull a little more low mids out.

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Dec 8th, 2017 08:59 AM   Edit   Profile  

I set mine like this: treble 3, bass 6.

And I point it toward the wall (about a foot from the wall, turned at a slight angle).

This gets rid of the spikiness you hear when the speaker is aimed at you. It helps mix things up faster before the sound hits your ears. Anytime you're in a small room, point your amp at the wall. It will amaze you how much better it sounds.

My PRRI has some modifications--solid state rectifier, Heyboer TO20 output transformer, and a Weber 10F150 speaker. These mods make the amp quite a bit more punchy in the lower range. It sounds like a cross between a PR a DR.

Tony F

Long Island, NY

When you come to fork in road take it
Dec 9th, 2017 10:48 AM   Edit   Profile  

I'm gonna give that at try.
I've used blues juniors for many years and never had to tilt it away from me. My PR has an Eminence 1058 speaker, the amp oozes sweet tone but kinda miss the mid grind from the blues junior.
I have a tube doctor 7025 on order for v1 maybe that might help a little bit.
thanks

(This message was last edited by Tony F at 04:05 PM, Dec 9th, 2017)

GuitarGeorge

Long Island, NY, USA

Dec 10th, 2017 06:05 AM   Edit   Profile  

I put everything on the amp on 5 and then adjust the guitars' tone and volume controls for the sound I like.

Big Joe

USA

Dec 11th, 2017 03:38 PM   Edit   Profile  

My 1995 TRRI has 2 Texas Heat speakers, a Mercury Magnetics output transformer and I use JJ Power Tubes.
I set:

Treble =6
Mid=5
Bass= 4.5
Reverb=3
Vibrato = 2. (Both settings)



Tony F

Long Island, NY

When you come to fork in road take it
Dec 15th, 2017 12:09 PM   Edit   Profile  

Clean the amp kills but I don't like the breakup it sounds harsh and not musical. I'm very disappointed and gonna put her up for sale if anyone is interested and go back to using a blues jr.

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ohio

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Dec 15th, 2017 01:33 PM   Edit   Profile  

Have you tried the 68 princeton? Its a little different animal than the 65. More mids and more bass.

Deep

Kathmandu, Nepal.

Dec 15th, 2017 01:35 PM   Edit   Profile  

A little extreme looking but try this

Vol-4
Treble-8
Bass -9 (yes,9!)
Reverb to taste- mines mostly at 2.5

I know this looks a bit too much but this actually sounds pretty good with single coils. Also recommended by a certain Mt. Jim Campilongo.


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Dec 15th, 2017 01:39 PM   Edit   Profile  

Jim *is* a mountain of a player--now that I think about it :0)

The 6V6 tube is known for smooth, gradual breakup. If that Princeton sounds harsh, there may be something out of spec. It should make a nice warm crunch when wound up.

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Dec 15th, 2017 01:49 PM   Edit   Profile  

A speaker that needs broken in can give you that harshness too .

Big Joe

USA

Dec 15th, 2017 05:13 PM   Edit   Profile  

Kenny Vaughan of Marty Stuart’s Superlatives plays Princeton
reverb also and sound great. Also an incredible player.

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Dec 15th, 2017 05:28 PM   Edit   Profile  

Here's Kenny along with Guthrie Trapp, ripping it up. Kenny's got a ragged-out Bassman on this one. Both these guys are monsters.

You know it ain't right

Big Joe

USA

Dec 15th, 2017 07:23 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks Peegoo.. that was a fantastic performance and playing in the YouTube you attached.

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Dec 15th, 2017 08:11 PM   Edit   Profile  

Wanna know a cool bit of intel?

That pale blue Tele of Guthrie's is a custom one made of redwood, and it has MIM Tele pickups (ceramics) in it.

Further proof that practice trumps gear every time :o)

Big Joe

USA

Dec 15th, 2017 08:26 PM   Edit   Profile  

Saw Marty Stuart, Kenny Vaughan and the Superlatives last year at Daryl’s Place which is a very intimate venue. I think it’s one of the best shows I have ever seen. Daryl Hall even came up on stage and played with them. incredible show by all!
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Tony F

Long Island, NY

When you come to fork in road take it
Dec 16th, 2017 01:04 PM   Edit   Profile  

This is interesting about the phase inverter circuit in the 65PRRI

I had a '65 PRRI while I owned a '65 DRRI; I still own the DRRI, primarily because I did not like the way the PRRI breaks up with its different phase inverter design. More of a "ratty" distortion (not like a Rat pedal, but "ratty" in a bad way), in a raucous "Neil Young" kind of way as you state, while the DRRI's overdrive is smoother and much more pleasing to my ears. I used several different speakers with my PRRI (a Weber 10F150T was the best), but it's the phase inverter design that results in that kind of distortion.

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