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larryguitar19
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Dec 12th, 2017 08:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Dolemite-I am in WPB and am looking for a good luthier. If you don't mind can you give me a recommendation? You can private email if you like. I would like to take my prized Tele and get a professional set up just once and see how it goes.

Thanks.

Dolemite

What It Was!

Fairly Unbalanced
Dec 12th, 2017 10:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Done

RicOkc

Nicoma Park, OK.

"Let the music do the talking"
Dec 12th, 2017 10:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No way in hell would I have someone at G.C. do work on any of my instruments.

johnny1111
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Dec 12th, 2017 10:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I took an Inventory of my spendable cash assts. Then I took an inventory of all my gear. I realized that I am finished buying anything for a LONG time. I have way more than I need or can use. I think the great days of GC are over. Just like the guitar-slinging baby boomers.

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Dec 12th, 2017 02:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Saw the cops walk right into the GC here in Buffalo and handcuff a salesman who was talking to a customer. It was kinda hilarious.

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Dec 12th, 2017 02:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

He probably broke the law that makes it illegal to say one is better than the other in the ongoing 'maple vs rosewood' debate.

I know at least 42 states have that.

darrengoleafs
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I played Black Sabbath at 78 speed
Dec 13th, 2017 10:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

He was trying to sell the guy a solid state amp IIRC.

Hammond101
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Dec 13th, 2017 11:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"The company couldn't afford to pay for those kinds of skills."

I think it's more like the company won't pay for those skills. Hiring good service people and properly compensating them would actually improve profits in that department.

A friend of mine is a local player and actually a very good guitar tech. His day job, co-owner of his family's construction company, has begun to dry up. He is now working part time at the local GC as one of their guitar techs. They have a real jewel in this guy but they will never understand how the service department could benefit by retaining techs like him.

He is frustrated by a lack of tools, parts and equipment to do his job. The pay sucks too.


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Dec 13th, 2017 12:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The parent corporation is interested only in selling stuff. Servicing? Nah.

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Dec 13th, 2017 12:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I hope we are all pulling for GC, Gibson and others, even if you don't like their business plan or products or management. A loss in the music industry is a loss for all if us. Like dropped stones on a lake.

Hammond101
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Dec 13th, 2017 01:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I hate to see any legit business fail. Good people are always hurt.

I agree Jack.

digiboy

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Dec 13th, 2017 03:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I hate to see any legit business fail. Good people are always hurt."

Very true. Less competition is rarely a good thing. However, companies with poor management and bad business decisions are subject to survival of the fittest just as in nature. Reading some of the examples posted above, sure sounds like GC is marked for extinction.

Edited to delete some bogus text that somehow landed in the "external link" space. My typing skills are marked for extinction too.

(This message was last edited by digiboy at 05:30 PM, Dec 13th, 2017)

johnny1111
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Dec 13th, 2017 03:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Other than my lack of need to be spending money on any more gear, as previously stated in an earlier post, the GCs in this area have improved over the past few years. More stock, less games, better organized stores, and more more knowledgeable and friendlier sales reps are all improvements I have noticed. I really can’t fault GC at its current state locally.

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Idaho, USA

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Dec 13th, 2017 04:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Our closest GC is in Boise. I was in there a couple months ago to look at acoustics and see what sort of Fenders and Gibsons were on the wall. For our area, it was OK. Mostly, lesser examples but the occasional nugget as well. Of the gear I've bought over the past 20 years, it's been mostly Sweetwater and MF and a Yamaha acoustic bought at a local shop back in 1995.

But let me tell you guys, GC has been a longtime sponsor here and if we lose them it will not be a good thing.

FunkyKikuchiyo
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Dec 13th, 2017 07:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"The "guitar tech" at Medford , Or GC..."

This makes me extra sad because it just makes people less and less trustworthy to let ANYONE touch their instruments. The ones who won't, you know, totally destroy an instrument trying to do a routine repair, are left with no customers, and the ones they have are typically very scared to leave their instruments.

GC can get good techs through their stores... they just don't keep them. The good ones end up with lots of followers and if they're lucky they set up shop and those people follow them.

On the Taylor certification, it is basically an endurance contest. They give you an online "test" that takes several hours and grinds in advanced guitar knowledge like the orientation of the washer on the tuner collar or whether Taylor will let you special order certain neck widths. Give any slacker time in the break room in front of a computer, and he'll be "certified". Ironically, most luthiers I know take a look at that test and say "I have better things to do".

jefe46
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Dec 15th, 2017 06:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am sorry that GC is a substandard enterprise who deserves their demise.

Sorry that folks will lose jobs and FDP may suffer.

When they fail.. I'll send an extra $30 to the FDP and you don't have to give me a star.

Steve M
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Dec 16th, 2017 05:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The loss of GC will not hurt sales on MI.

The drop in demand for MI is a much bigger problem.

From the time Bain dived in and tried to make MI a big box commodity they have been wrong. The market could not grow because MI can't just be bought, there is real learning needed. Demographics and technology were against them and the internet as shopping hit them as well.

It was a bad model, loaded with debt and dependent on illusory growth forecasts. Each successive bad turn found new management trying to cut losses by spending less on stores and staff to fight a losing battle against an inadequate revenue line.

The biggest fallacy is that "it was the recession". This should have been no more than a body blow if their model was sustainable.

(This message was last edited by Steve M at 06:53 AM, Dec 18th, 2017)

Leftee
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Jan 12th, 2018 11:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I thought I'd drag this thread to the 1st page with a recent experience.

I was in the GC in Greensboro, NC earlier this week. I've never seen it looking better. Lots of new stock and a ton of used guitars and amps. I've never seen so much used gear in that store.

It was a pleasant surprise.

(This message was last edited by Leftee at 01:50 PM, Jan 12th, 2018)

Peegoo
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Jan 12th, 2018 12:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Wow, that is good news! They are bucking the trend that's underway here in the DC area.

Leftee
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Jan 12th, 2018 01:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I wonder if the glut of used gear is from other locations.

There was an ancient (‘40s) Epiphone amp that wanted to walk out the door with me.

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