FDP Home Page / FDP Forum / FAQ's

The FDP is made possible by the following companies and individual members like you.
Please use the links below to show them we value their sponsorship.

Jensen Loudspeakers

Sweetwater

MOD KITS DIY

Musician's Friend

Antique Electronics Supply

Yellowjackets Tube Converters

Amazon

Apex Tube Matching

Guitar Center

WD Music

Amplified Parts


* God bless America and our men and women in uniform *

* Illegitimi non carborundum! *

If you benefit and learn from the FDP and enjoy our site, please help support us and become a Contributing Member or make a Donation today! The FDP counts on YOU to help keep the site going with an annual contribution. It's quick and easy with PayPal. Please do it TODAY!

Chris Greene, Host & Founder

LOST YOUR PASSWORD?

......................................................................

   
FDP Jam
Calendar
Find musicians
in your area!
  Search the Forums  

FDP Forum / Moe's Tavern (_8^(I) / Revolvers *Only*

BlondeStrat
Contributing Member
**********
**********
******

Las Vegas NV

Can't complain but sometimes I still do
Jan 10th, 2018 04:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

As the owner of a business I show up at the bank (B of A) most days.

I keep noticing they have an armed guard out front most all of the time. These guards are not B of A employees this is an outside service.

Another thing I keep noticing is that all of these armed guards have a revolver on their hip.

I stopped to talk to one of them a couple of days ago and mentioned the revolver and that it's what I see on their people all over town.

He tells me it's Bank of America Policy. We chatted a few minutes about the limitations of it and I went on my way.

Today I was walking right past another B of A guard and struck up a small discussion with him. We talked a few minutes and I went on inside the bank. As I came out he started talking to me again and another thing that came up is they are only allowed "by policy" to have 18 rounds of ammo.

Both guys stated that they would much prefer an auto loading .40 S&W. Both said that in other localities the guards are allowed these higher capacity options. And that this policy is from a B of A executive in the region.

As I left to get in my van, all I could do was give him the common FDP response of, "The good thing is you will probably never need to use it".

It just seems strange as heck to me that some Corporate America Executive is imposing such limitations on guys posted out front of his bank to "Protect".

I can't imagine doing that job and being one bit less armed than I am when I arrive at the firing line at Front Sight. That would be: Glock 22, one in the chamber, a full magazine in the well and two loaded magazines on my belt.

Actually at Front Sight I'd have another thirty loose rounds in my pocket to thumb into partially depleted magazines between iterations, but that another situation. ;)

What's the take from you guys on the policy there?

(This message was last edited by BlondeStrat at 06:58 PM, Jan 10th, 2018)

Pinetree
Moderator Emeritus
(with many stars)

NW Pennsylvania

Jan 10th, 2018 05:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Most "Second Amendment Guys" avoid BoA due to their anti-gun policies.


External link

Chris Greene
FDP Host

Idaho, USA

Nine mile skid on a ten mile ride
Jan 10th, 2018 05:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd avoid banking with them. We don't have any guards, armed or otherwise, around here; most of the customers are packing...

In my old department, we had a policy of no hollow-point rounds only 158g lead round nose bullets, no reloads, and no whacking a cross in the bullet tip with a knife. This was mid-70's and department issue were S&W Model 10's with the 4" barrel. Off-duty, we had more variety (some guys carried 1911's off-duty. I carried a Colt Detective Special (6 rounds, .38).

MJB
Contributing Member
**********
**

Who's we sucka?

Smith, Wesson and me.
Jan 10th, 2018 05:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Stupid policy for sure.

My local bank (PNC) has NO armed security in sight.

My neighbor is a security guard at a local hospital. Up until about a year ago he was carrying a Taurus .357 revolver. He carries a G19 now.

ECS-3
Contributing Member
**********
**

USA / Virginia

Jan 10th, 2018 05:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I doubt those security guys would ever engage in a protracted gun fight with bad guys. So 18 round is probably enough.

BlondeStrat
Contributing Member
**********
**********
******

Las Vegas NV

Can't complain but sometimes I still do
Jan 10th, 2018 05:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I doubt those security guys would ever engage in a protracted gun fight with bad guys. So 18 round is probably enough."

My concern there is the time it takes to reload a revolver. We get 5 seconds to reload a revolver and it takes quite a bit of work to get even that fast.

Obviously I don't know how *practiced* these guards are, but I'd be afraid they might not survive a reload.

By comparison we get 4 seconds to clear a type three malfunction.


Pinetree
Moderator Emeritus
(with many stars)

NW Pennsylvania

Jan 10th, 2018 05:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"time it takes to reload a revolver"

YouTubage

Chris Greene
FDP Host

Idaho, USA

Nine mile skid on a ten mile ride
Jan 10th, 2018 05:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd rather reload an autoloader than a revolver. You want slow? Reload a Colt Peacemaker. We all used speed loaders back in the day but reloading with them in the stress of a gunfight is one of those hope the bad guys are using revolvers too, preferably, a 5 shot...

BlondeStrat
Contributing Member
**********
**********
******

Las Vegas NV

Can't complain but sometimes I still do
Jan 10th, 2018 05:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"time it takes to reload a revolver"

Well, You and Me and Miculek ... I'm not sure who else can do that. :P

NoSoapRadio
Contributing Member
**********
**********
**********
**********

Mass., Amerika

CO2 ... is there anything it can't do?
Jan 10th, 2018 05:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What is the mystery?

This is the same mentality that is behind fascist politicians in many states - mine for example - dictating what firearms we are allowed to possess and limiting the capacity of magazines.

These people are everywhere and they are relentless. This is why we have to oppose every proposal for gun control that sees the light of day.

They don't care about security or saving lives. They just hate guns and are chipping away at the 2A any time they get the chance.

(This message was last edited by NoSoapRadio at 07:53 PM, Jan 10th, 2018)

mfitz804
Contributing Member
**********
**********
***

Staten Island, NY

Our resident rational liberal
Jan 10th, 2018 06:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Honestly, there isn’t a single bank around here that has a guard, armed or otherwise. I thought that only existed in movies.

Beyond that, I’d rather not have anyone opening fire during a bank robbery, they say the average bank robber gets away with about $3,000. That’s not worth a back-and-forth exchange of gunfire in the public square.

Peegoo
Contributing Member
**********
**********
********

Tried vegetarian:

miss steak.
Jan 10th, 2018 07:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Frankly I'm amazed the guards are even allowed to carry.

Around here, the BoA "guards" have a taser and mace, and a phone to call 911 when they run out of options.

I have no problem carrying a revolver when I'm out on a hike. But providing security at a bank? That's like bringing a six-shooter to a SA pistol fight.

jefe46
Contributing Member
**********
****

State of Jefferson

Jan 10th, 2018 07:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I'd avoid banking with them. We don't have any guards, armed or otherwise, around here; most of the customers are packing..."

I complained to the bank Pres. about the armed guards. She said it was to make the customers feel secure. Right.
I said.. no, it makes me feel insecure.

We withdrew our 4 accounts.

The oldest of the "armed guards" might have been 28.

All were sporting semi-autos.

Most often they were on cell phones or smoking on the job.. within 10 feet of the entrance.

(This message was last edited by jefe46 at 12:36 PM, Jan 11th, 2018)

littleuch
Contributing Member
**********
******

Florida

Jan 10th, 2018 07:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think I've been inside a bank 3 times in the last 4 years.



ECS-3
Contributing Member
**********
**

USA / Virginia

Jan 10th, 2018 07:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No armed guards in any banks around here, they don’t want any gunfights, that’s what insurance is for.

Gato
Contributing Member
**********
********

Southern Calif

Jan 11th, 2018 06:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My local Wells Fargo has an obsequious greeter for patrons, who offers coffee to those entering the premises.

There is occasionally an unarmed, but uniformed security person at the outdoor ATM.
I presume he is there to give responding officers his dying declaration about the robbers who shot him, as he breathes his last.

One thing my WF branch does have is inch thick bullet proof (resistant)? polycarbonate material protecting the teller area.

Customers are required to bend at the waist and shout through the cash tray openng, where their transaction takes place.

Two purposes served:
discourage robbers who don't want to invest in high quality ammunition, and
discourage customers from interacting with tellers rather than the automated machines outside.

mfitz804
Contributing Member
**********
**********
***

Staten Island, NY

Our resident rational liberal
Jan 11th, 2018 08:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"No armed guards in any banks around here, they don’t want any gunfights, that’s what insurance is for."

I would bet the incidence of guns being fired during a bank robbery is very low, and in those cases where it occurs, it wouldn't have but/for the presence of an armed guard or the police.

ECS-3
Contributing Member
**********
**

USA / Virginia

Jan 11th, 2018 10:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yea, that's the problem.
Barney Fife is guarding the bank.
In comes a crew of bad guys, say 4 of them, all armed.
You think Barney is going to unleash that bullet in his pocket?

or

You think you are Clint Eastwood, whip out your 44 Mag Revolver. This starts a gunfight inside the bank, where the bad guys start slinging bullets all over the place, hitting customers, etc.

Not good.

FDP Forum / Moe's Tavern (_8^(I) / Revolvers *Only*




Reply to this Topic
Display my email address             Lost your password?
Your Message:
Link Address (URL):
Link Title:




Moderators: Chris Greene  Iron Man  reverendrob  

FDP, LLC Privacy Policy: Your real name, username, and email
are held in confidence and not disclosed to any third parties, sold, or
used for anything other than FDP Forum registration unless you specifically authorize disclosure.

Furtkamp.com 
Internet Application Development

Copyright © 1999-2018 Fender Discussion Page, LLC   All Rights Reserved