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Blacksunshine
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Jan 10th, 2018 09:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm fairly new to two wheels, but over the years I learned that very few people, at least in my circle that own and ride, have a motorcycle endorsement on their license.

After looking at the requirements, I understand now why most riders (that I know) don't have a license.

The requirements seem a little excessive.

How about you guys?

PS, yes I know that the motorcycle safety course is a good idea, but $235 and 18 hours, PLUS the state fee and state hoops to jump through, I'm figuring out why a lot of riders risk it.

(This message was last edited by Blacksunshine at 11:16 PM, Jan 10th, 2018)

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Jan 10th, 2018 09:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes




HeavyDuty
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Jan 10th, 2018 10:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have the endorsement and don’t even ride!

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Jan 10th, 2018 10:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yep. And I no longer have a bike.

If you're illegally operating a bike (i.e., you have no motorcycle operator's license or endorsement on your driver's license) and you cause an accident and are injured, cause property damage, or cause injuries to others, you will probably be denied coverage by your insurer.

Are you willing to roll those dice?

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Jan 11th, 2018 03:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

When I decided to resume motorcycle ownership in 2006, the 1st thing I did was take a state recognized safety course. Trust me, I thought I knew all I needed to know about motorcycle riding. I did not. It's worth a measly $235 and a weekend of your time to improve your chances or surviving on the street. I wouldn't and didn't ride without an endorsement on my license.

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Jan 11th, 2018 04:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes, I have one. I can't imagine someone riding without one.

Plus 1 on the Motorcycle safety course. Like Jhawkr, I found that I had barely scratched the surface about riding until I took that course.

Riding is something you want to do "right". If it seems expensive to get into motorcycle riding, just wait till you wipe out on one and your license and insurance are not in order...

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Jan 11th, 2018 05:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Absolutely!

MJB
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Jan 11th, 2018 05:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had one when I lived in IL. I haven't ridden since 1982 but I don't think FL requires it as I wasn't asked about it when I turned in my IL license.

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Jan 11th, 2018 06:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I would think that if you're supposed to have one and don't you risk an instant ticket should you get pulled over. That and you probably would not be allowed to leave on the bike.

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Jan 11th, 2018 06:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Absolutely.. And you need one too if you are going to ride..

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Jan 11th, 2018 06:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes..
It's called an "endorsement" and on the auto driver's license as such.

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Jan 11th, 2018 06:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

duplicate

(This message was last edited by jefe46 at 12:34 PM, Jan 11th, 2018)

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Jan 11th, 2018 08:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't understand how its possible. Neither the DMV (for registration) nor your insurance (to issue a policy) require proof of a motorcycle endorsement??

Especially the insurance, I wouldn't think they would issue a policy to an unlicensed operator.

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Jan 11th, 2018 08:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I actually thought the safety course was kind of fun.

Riding those little motorcycles on the test track was a hoot. They were like minibikes for me. LOL.

The class room section was fun too. Our instructor was pretty laid back, and answered everyone's questions.

There was the pre-test before the class that was not to terribly hard if you study, and the learners permit that allows you to ride on the road with certain conditions like no night riding, and no passengers.

I say go for it. Overall it's a good experience, and you learn that riders are almost a sort of brethren.

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Jan 11th, 2018 09:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I say go for it. Overall it's a good experience, and you learn that riders are almost a sort of brethren. "

I've been re-watching Sons of Anarchy, and now I really want to be in a motorcycle gang.

I'm pretty sure that was NOT supposed to be the take-away message from that series, but Breaking Bad also made me want to open a meth operation so it could just be me.

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Jan 11th, 2018 09:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What Peegoo said. Insurance mandates licensed operator....

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Jan 11th, 2018 09:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Maybe this is why I see so many riders that don't have a clue of what they are doing?

I've had mine since I was 16 years old, 45 years now and have kept it active in all the States I have lived in, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Texas and California.

I can't imagine riding on the street without one. How would you insure your bike? Insurance companies need your license number to provide insurance. If you manage to squeak by your insurance may be void without the endorsement. Big ticket here in CA to not have it.

The rider safety courses are excellent. The advanced courses are even better.

Be safe out there.

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Jan 11th, 2018 09:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Me Too!

In fact, even seeing the question asked is surprising to me. ;)

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Jan 11th, 2018 09:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am guessing here and I could be wrong, but I think it's not so much about the money & time involved to get the endorsement/license.

I suspect those people that ride without it are living out their version of the wild, rebellious ne'er-do-well image of The Wild One/Wild Angels/Easy Rider/Born2bWild:

"I'm a cowboy; on a steel horse I ride..."

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Jan 11th, 2018 10:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got mine back in ‘83, in the State of Florida, I was grandfather’ed in when they changed to Motorcycle endorsement.

I never took the riders safety course but I highly recomend it. One of the guys I used to ride with down in South Florida was an instructor, he told me a few things but basically said I knew what I was doing. I’ve been riding since 1973 or there abouts.

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