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Peegoo
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Jan 11th, 2018 09:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am guessing here and I could be wrong, but I think it's not so much about the money & time involved to get the endorsement/license.

I suspect those people that ride without it are living out their version of the wild, rebellious ne'er-do-well image of The Wild One/Wild Angels/Easy Rider/Born2bWild:

"I'm a cowboy; on a steel horse I ride..."

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Jan 11th, 2018 10:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got mine back in ‘83, in the State of Florida, I was grandfather’ed in when they changed to Motorcycle endorsement.

I never took the riders safety course but I highly recomend it. One of the guys I used to ride with down in South Florida was an instructor, he told me a few things but basically said I knew what I was doing. I’ve been riding since 1973 or there abouts.

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Jan 11th, 2018 10:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Had mine since '69. My test was drive down an alley, turn around without using feet. Drive back to the DMV lot shifting at least twice.

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Jan 11th, 2018 10:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got mine in Wi a lot of years ago. My birthday is in Dec. So On the first day I was eligible to take the MC test I rode to the police station, it was snowing, and asked for a test. I was promptly told they only give the test in spring and summer months.

I then belligerently said "you mean I rode 20 miles in the snow for nothing" The desk dude then walked outside to see if I was telling the truth. He signed off on my endorsement, said "If you can make it here in this snow storm you are good to go" Then he told me to put it in the garage till spring, cause he didn't want to scrape me off the highway.

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Jan 11th, 2018 11:05 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cool story K4! I got caught in the snow only one time. It was on a ride to Death Valley in February and after a tour of Scotty's Castle we came out to an inch of snow on the ground. Not fun on a 500+ pound Concours.

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Jan 11th, 2018 11:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Like others, I have an endorsement and don't own a motorcycle. The main reason I have the endorsement is because my dad has a couple of Suzuki dual sports, and whenever we visit my parents we go trail riding in the Sierra Nevada foothills. We can trailer the bikes to our favorite spots, but where's the fun in that!? So, we enjoy the winding mountain roads and then hit the trails. I plan on getting a few of the Suzukis soon to keep at home because my kids want to start riding too.

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Jan 11th, 2018 11:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

yes

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Jan 11th, 2018 01:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Obviously a different system in the States compared to the UK.

We were restricted to riding (fully insured) a 250cc (later reduced to 125cc) bike without a motorcycle licence.

If you wanted a full cc unrestricted motorcycle licence you had to take the full motorcycle licence test equivalent to the car driving test i.e. not just a few hours of safety training. Having passed a car driving test was irrelevant.

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Jan 11th, 2018 02:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Obviously a different system in the States compared to the UK.

The safety training includes classroom and range(riding) and you are tested. Passing the training in most states allow the certified trainers to administer the riding portion of the test. Rules vary by state as the Federal Government has no authority except on Federal reservations like military bases, etc. Incidentally, the Department Of Defense requires the safety course completion to ride on any military installation in addition to the endorsement on a state issued license.


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Jan 11th, 2018 02:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Got my motorcycle endorsement when I was 15. Learned to ride around 10.

I would absolutely consider this a requirement if you ride bikes due to the insurance implications. I think Europe has stringent requirements due to it being a high risk activity in the setting of state funded healthcare but it should be very easy in the States; I just did some turns around a parking lot and parked it for my road test. I was a reckless dirt bike riding teenager at the time and thought it was a joke.

Had to retake the written test to maintain my M endorsement when I moved to CA and failed it on the first try, they asked some crazy questions! In TN it's one and done, lifetime cert.

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Jan 11th, 2018 04:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"The main reason I have the endorsement is because my dad has a couple of Suzuki dual sports, and whenever we visit my parents we go trail riding in the Sierra Nevada foothills. We can trailer the bikes to our favorite spots, but where's the fun in that!? So, we enjoy the winding mountain roads and then hit the trails. "

This is the way I'm leaning too. I don't want to have to trailer it to the trails.


FWIW, here in Texas you can, or at least could, register a motorcycle without M endorsement on your license. My stepdad had the bike registered before I inherited it and he didn't have it on his license.

*shrugs*

Thanks for the responses everybody, I'll definitely take the course eventually.

(This message was last edited by Blacksunshine at 06:01 PM, Jan 11th, 2018)

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Jan 11th, 2018 07:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ayuh!

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Jan 12th, 2018 02:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I bought a new Harley in '06 and the dealership gave me the "Riders Edge" course for free. It was fun and I learned a lot. It also let me take the written (computer kiosk)test at the DMV to get my endorsement with out taking the riding test. I sold my bike in '12 but still have the motorcycle endorsement.

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Jan 12th, 2018 02:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Some of the guys in my Riders Edge class were long term riders and already had the endorsement. They were taking the class because in Texas (at that time any way) you could legally ride with no helmet if you took the class and had health insurance. I think that got changed in 2009.

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Jan 12th, 2018 02:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Part of the IL test in 1972 was they had you manually push the bike in a U-turn from curb to curb. Idea was if you stalled you needed to be able to push it to a safe spot. I'm not making this up.

I had a Honda 350 so it wasn't a big deal but a guy with a full dress Harley would have his hands full.

reverendrob
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Jan 12th, 2018 04:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Especially the insurance, I wouldn't think they would issue a policy to an unlicensed operator."

You can get insurance on anything with wheels.

It just won't cover you if you need it for anything past "has insurance" tickets.


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Jan 12th, 2018 05:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Cool story K4!"

Yea and it wasn't some dirt bike, it was a 1961 FLF that I pieced together from parts found in farmers junk piles. I'd help put up hay and they would let me take whatever I wanted out of the scrap piles.

Wish I still had it.

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DOAIHPS
Jan 13th, 2018 08:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes - endorsement on my license
Yes - safety course is worth it



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Jan 13th, 2018 08:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes, since I was 16.

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Jan 13th, 2018 03:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I did when I was riding, but have neither ridden nor had the endorsement since about 1985, when our first daughter was born.

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