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Riphraff

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Jan 11th, 2018 08:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hello all, I am new to the forum and have a question. I built myself a partscaster with FCS fat 50s CTS pots and an assortment of used fender parts. I paid half of what FCS builders charge for my pickups,pots,pickgaurd,& knobs.Im wondering what do those have that mine doesnt that justifies the price? Are the pots and pickgaurd really that much better. Ive tried finding info online and I dont see a diffrence aside from an upgraded capacitor and color options. I would appreciate any info. Thank you


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Jan 11th, 2018 08:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hard to make a judgment in your own specific case. But it has become apparent to me that, yes...you can build a Custom Shop quality guitar on your own with the careful selection of parts to match your needs. I have certainly done so, as I know others here on the FDP have also.

My own example...

Riphraff

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Jan 11th, 2018 10:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Very nice indeed sir! I did a Telly using very similar color scheme. I was just inquiring because I obviously want a quality build but I'm not of the belief that because you pay more money you're getting a better product. It will probably be a couple of months but I will definitely post pics of mine on here and would love to get some feedback from some people's. I do appreciate Deborah sponsor

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Jan 11th, 2018 10:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Stratcowboy, that is a PEACH of a guitar.

Buying parts from the CS is always going to be an upcharge in comparison to the cost of identical parts you source yourself. It's simple economics: there's a demand for CS stuff, and people pay the asking price. Fender keeps the costs high because they can.

You can actually get better parts than what the CS supplies as standard pots and caps for less money, delivered. For instance, Bourns pots (see link for sample) are top quality. They are also enclosed, which means they stay clean for pretty much ever.

The drawback is these kinds of pots are not what Fender historically used, so you lose that springtime fresh tru-vintage tone (yeah riiiight).

Bourns potentiometer

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Jan 12th, 2018 01:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

stratcowboy, that is indeed a beautiful guitar (and nicely photographed).

And welcome Riphraff!


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Jan 12th, 2018 07:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks guys. But I cheated...my career has been that of a pro photographer. Nothing like having some trick studio lighting available...

But it is a nice guitar, too.

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Jan 12th, 2018 11:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"...what do those have that mine doesnt that justifies the price?..."

Well, on a Custom Shop instrument, you get to spec things exactly as you want. But you did that yourself with your home-built.

And with a Custom Shop instrument, you are paying for many hours of highly skilled labor. But you provided that yourself, which lowers the price a great deal.

Lastly, custom shop guitars presumably have an expert setup and have any problems that arise debugged and fixed. That part is now up to you, or a tech of your choosing.

But in general, I agree that the home builder using quality parts can achieve Custom Shop quality.

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Jan 12th, 2018 03:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No resale value on a home made guitar.

Riphraff

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Jan 12th, 2018 07:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well one thing I'm sure we can all agree on and that is it doesn't matter how much you spend or who builds it or what name is on the product as long as you're happy and you like the way it plays and sounds all is good! Regardless of what some uppity people may think LOL

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Jan 13th, 2018 03:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Some people don't need to rationalize price justification. They can afford it and they will buy it. More power to them. They will get an instrument that will likely be very good, branded and consequently having good resale value, pride of ownership. They are not likely the kind to roll their own. Again more power to them.

Me personally I like to roll my own. 2 Strat builds, 2 Tele builds using Allparts, Guitar Mill, MJT, Musikraft, Wilde/Bill Lawrence, Kent Armstrong, GFS, Lindy Fralin, Gregg Rogers, Callaham, and on and on. If I hit the lotto I might buy one custom shop. Or I might build a couple o' three.

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Jan 13th, 2018 05:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have never owned, or will likely ever own, a CS guitar.

My dream Custom Shop instrument will come from *my* shop.

Some day I hope to build a guitar from a raw plank of timber. Shape it, route it, the whole nine yards. (that's 8.23 metres here)
I doubt I'll ever get to the level of making a neck from scratch, but the rest of it, yeah.

The guitars I've "built" thus far may not meet FCS standards, but they're *mine* and they feel/play/sound great.
I really like that personal bond I have with *all* my guitars. Even one's I've only modded. I do not own a stock guitar... :^)


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Jan 13th, 2018 05:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nine yards?

You're gonna need a ladder to play it.

Just ask Gary Busey

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Jan 13th, 2018 09:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Some of you may recall my story of why I built that custom Strat pictured above.

I was up at Wildwood Guitars in Louisville, CO a few years back--a great shop and the world's largest Fender & Gibson Custom Shop dealer. It's a small shop physically, but they've got a HUGE storage room.

I went in with my Allen Brown Sugar amp and my #1 Strat (also modded by me). I played at least 8 CS Fenders. They were all extremely nice. Great build, good sounds, etc. But none of them sounded as good as my #1 Strat. So after a few hours, I gave them some $$ as a sincere gratuity for indulging me for those hours, and walked out the door. When I arrived home, the light bulb went off and I realized I could get my CS guitar by building it myself. Done. And it's a winner. Easily a match for anything I played that day. Additionally, I owned a CS Strat a good number of years ago. Great build, but it never sounded as good as my other guitars. Changed pickups, too. It just never had the mojo. Gone.

For my homemade custom Strat, maybe not great resale value. But my guess is that with the quality components I chose, I could probably get most, if not all or slightly more, than I put into it.

Plus I get to play it!

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